- Oct 12, 2018 at 10:20 am #3559468
For years I’ve used knots for tensioning guy lines. I’ve decided to try a mechanical tensioner.
Which one do you prefer and why:
1) The triangular line loc, or
2) The Lineloc 3, or
3) The metal, 2-hole adjusters from Liberty Mtn?Oct 12, 2018 at 12:34 pm #3559472
Not 1 because I’ve had them slip and because they eat up part of your usable line length.
2 is good. To quote another recent thread, they just work. I like that you can adjust them all the way to the end of the line (very short) without any trouble.
Never tried 3.Oct 12, 2018 at 12:47 pm #3559474
My vote is for Lineloc 3 as well. Quick, simple, reliable and utilizes the entire guy length.Oct 12, 2018 at 12:58 pm #3559476
Brad RogersBPL Member
@mocs123Locale: Southeast Tennessee
I like Lineloc 3’s as well. The only issue with them is you have to use thicker cord with them. I wish they made a smaller one for thinner cord, but then the plastic might not be strong enough.
I like the triangular line loc’s too for certain uses. They are fine for long guylines (like midpoint guylines on a mid) where your line is going to be long anyways, but they do require more cord. The nice thing about them is they are easy to add to any guypoint, whereas the lineloc 3’s are best if sewn on.Oct 12, 2018 at 2:05 pm #3559483
Gary DunckelBPL Member
For a real art deco approach at a scant weight penalty, you might consider Lawson’s aluminum bar tensioners. They really work well, they are indestructible, and they look cool. I also put small split rings on some and use them for novel zipper pulls, which are especially handy in the winter with gloves on. I bought extra last year and I gave them out at REI as random surprise Christmas gifts to strangers.Oct 12, 2018 at 3:26 pm #3559494
Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
I like Lineloc 3’s as well. The only issue with them is you have to use thicker cord with them.
Agree!Oct 12, 2018 at 6:31 pm #3559514
Michael SirofchuckBPL Member
@mr_squishyLocale: Great Wet North
I use the Lawson’s tensioners on my Solomid and they work great.Oct 12, 2018 at 9:19 pm #3559532
Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
Variety. Line Locs on my Solomid. Lawson tensioners on my hammock tarp. The triangular plastic ones on the Hilleberg. Or none at all at times. Paired with the right line, they all work.Oct 12, 2018 at 10:30 pm #3559540
Eric BlancheBPL Member
@eblancheLocale: Northeast US
I also like the normal lineloc3 despite having to use thicker cord.
Has anyone tried these smaller versions of the linelocs? Called tensionlock lite at ripstopbytheroll :https://ripstopbytheroll.com/collections/plastic-adjusters/products/tensionlock-lite. I think osprey uses something similar for small cord on their Levity line for side compression.Oct 13, 2018 at 6:20 am #3559575
The RBTR tensionloc lite look exactly like those sold by Dutchware gear.
Despite advertised for thinner line, I found that 2mm line slips easily under tension. 3 mm may fare better, but then you may as well use lineloc3s, which are made of tougher plastic.
See short vid here demonstrating. Look at the nail to get an idea of the weights put on the lines to test.
For thin line, this sliding bar type adjuster grips very well, but is marginally heavier than a lineloc3. It can be attached with tape or line.Oct 14, 2018 at 6:43 pm #3559769
john hansfordBPL Member
@mole thanks for the video and the heads up re the 3mm braided line. It looks really good, weighs half as much as the MLD yellow 2.7mm, and is dirt cheap in a 200 metre reel. Is there any stretch?Oct 14, 2018 at 8:33 pm #3559778
no stretch that I noticed.
It isn’t as durable or high a breaking strain as 3mm Dyneema/spectra core line, but that stuff is overkill in my opinion. It’s durable enough – I’ve used it on my Tarptent scarp pitchloks for years, and my Trailstar mid points. Friends have it on their pyramid tents too. Because it’s braided, it’s possible to splice it if that is your thing. One friend has spliced locked brummel loops on all his Luxe hexpeak tie outs (12!) He’s a Scout Leader… :)Oct 18, 2018 at 12:48 am #3560315
I am a tad embarrassed to say that I am not familiar with the knot used to tie the tent loop to the Lineloc3. I understand how the cord is looped through the LineLok3. How is a loop achieved at the tent loop?Oct 18, 2018 at 6:15 am #3560375
@redgumLocale: Aussie in exile in the PNW
Don’t know what that knot is, but any non-sliding loop works — I’d suggest a bowline.Oct 18, 2018 at 6:18 am #3560376
Oct 18, 2018 at 6:20 am #3560377
- This reply was modified 8 months, 1 week ago by Mole J.
The lineloc3 is fixed to the shelter by tape or loop of line. The guyline just threads through it in the same way that webbing goes through a ladderlock buckle on a rucksack shoulder strap.
The other end of the line needs a fixed loop if appropriate size to put the peg/stake through. If permanently fixed it could be a simple overhand loop, if temporarily, a bowline. Or choose your own loop.
Full photo instructions here:Oct 19, 2018 at 2:18 pm #3560543
Adam TBPL Member
Have you considered the fleaz or tarpworms from Dutchware Gear?Oct 20, 2018 at 1:32 pm #3560691
They would work beautifully but too expensive a solution. There are 18 tent loops on the base and another 6 (?) higher up on the tent. I’d need to get in touch with their loan officer!
The LineLok3s arrived yesterday and the Lawson Glowire will arrive today. I’ll get to work this weekend rigging the tent.
By the way, Lawson was a delight to work with and I’d highly recommend him.
Oct 22, 2018 at 1:33 am #3560874
- This reply was modified 8 months, 1 week ago by wiiawiwb wiiawiwb.
I tried a number of different options and here’s what I ended up doing. I took the 3mm Glowire and made a Lark’s Head knot on the LineLok3 which I believe is in Step 2 of the Yamamountaingear. That left me with two lines which I tied using a Fisherman’s knot. Then that got tied to the tent loop using another Lark’s head. Here is what it looks like. I used 12″ of Glowire.
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