Topic

Get This: Pix of the Zoo on Everest this week

Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total)
brian H BPL Member
PostedMay 26, 2019 at 10:26 pm

from the NYT:   2 incredible pix  https://imgur.com/a/rQKtX22

and  https://imgur.com/a/KIFfYAO
<ul class=”gmail-css-1w5cs23 epjyd6m2″>

  • <div class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-1fanzo5 m_2146172724893749705gmail-StoryBodyCompanionColumn”>
    <div class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-53u6y8″>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>NEW DELHI — [By <span class=”css-1baulvz”>Kai Schultz</span><span class=”css-1baulvz”>Jeffrey Gettleman</span><span class=”css-1baulvz”>Mujib Mashal</span> and <span class=”css-1baulvz”>Bhadra Sharma]</span></p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>Ed Dohring, a doctor from Arizona, had dreamed his whole life of reaching the top of Mount Everest. But when he summited a few days ago, he was shocked by what he saw.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>Climbers were pushing and shoving to take selfies. The flat part of the summit, which he estimated at about the size of two Ping-Pong tables, was packed with 15 or 20 people. To get up there, he had to wait hours in a line, chest to chest, one puffy jacket after the next, on an icy, rocky ridge with a several-thousand foot drop.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>He even had to step around the frozen body of a woman who had just died.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>“It was scary,” he said by telephone from Kathmandu, Nepal, where he was resting in a hotel room. “It was like a zoo.”</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>This has been one of the deadliest climbing seasons on Everest, with at least 10 deaths. And at least some seem to have been avoidable.</p>

    </div>
    </div>
    <div class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-1fanzo5 m_2146172724893749705gmail-StoryBodyCompanionColumn”>
    <div class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-53u6y8″>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>The problem hasn’t been avalanches, blizzards or high winds. Veteran climbers and industry leaders blame having too many people on the mountain, in general, and too many inexperienced climbers, in particular.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>Fly-by-night adventure companies are taking up untrained climbers who pose a risk to everyone on the mountain. And the Nepalese government, hungry for every climbing dollar it can get, has issued more permits than Everest can safely handle, some experienced mountaineers say.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>Add to that Everest’s inimitable appeal to a growing body of thrill-seekers the world over. And the fact that Nepal, one of Asia’s poorest nations and the site of most Everest climbs, has a long record of shoddy regulations, mismanagement and corruption.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>The result is a crowded, unruly scene reminiscent of “Lord of the Flies” — at 29,000 feet. At that altitude, a delay of even an hour or two can mean life or death.</p>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>To reach the summit, climbers shed every pound of gear they can and take with them just enough canisters of compressed oxygen to make it to the top and back down. It is hard to think straight at that altitude, climbers say.</p>

    </div>
    </div>
    <div class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-1fanzo5 m_2146172724893749705gmail-StoryBodyCompanionColumn”>
    <div class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-53u6y8″>
    <p class=”m_2146172724893749705gmail-css-18icg9x m_2146172724893749705evys1bk0″>According to Sherpas and climbers, some of the deaths this year were caused by people getting held up in the long lines on the last 1,000 feet or so of the climb, unable to get up and down fast enough to replenish their oxygen supply. Others were simply not fit enough to be on the mountain in the first place.</p>

    </div>
    </div>

  • David Thomas BPL Member
    PostedMay 26, 2019 at 10:51 pm

    Most of these climbers are on oxygen?  And if it takes 2-3 hours longer than planned, they run out and don’t have enough acclimatization to climb down without supplemental O2?

    A Berkeley climber just got back to Berkeley 2 weeks after she’d left, having summited Everest.  She’d used a $4000 hypoxic chamber to spend 12 hours at home (mostly sleeping) and $5300 deoxygenater/mask at work.  So she was able to summit in 10 days instead of a month.

    She was still using O2 on her summit day, but came from the other side later in the day, after the big traffic jam on the south side.

    I’ve long pondered setting up something like that and 30 years ago considered a rebreather using soda ash to scrub the CO2 out of largely recycled air with a bit of make-up air.  To do it now, I’d use an oxygen concentrator to pump O2 overboard and maintain low O2 levels inside, which looks like what Hypoxico does with that tent-like chamber.

    obx hiker BPL Member
    PostedMay 28, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    Stepping over dead bodies for a selfie on the summit.

    Does it begin to seem like just maybe our modern, international, internet age, globalized culture  (for lack of a more precise term….feel free to refine)

    is absolutely stark raving mad?

    Tom K BPL Member
    PostedMay 29, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    Too bad the Nepali government is so desperate for cash.  Given such tragedies and the environmental impact of guided “climbs”, it would be better to outlaw them entirely and leave the mountains to those who are mentally and physically prepared to handle the risks and do the hard work necessary to prepare themselves.  It would also be well for the Nepali government to rigorously enforce laws that require even real climbers to clean up after themselves.  The environmental damage over there is by no means limited to guided “climbers”.

    Steve B BPL Member
    PostedMay 31, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    People have been getting pictures of themselves at the top of mountains long before such pictures were called selfies.  And people have been killed climbing mountains for a long time, at elevations where others had to ‘climb over them’ without being able to remove them.  Nothing new with regard to those issues.

    Just too many people.  A reoccurring issue, in many different venues.  The standards of living we have come to expect has a carrying capacity.

    Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total)
    Loading...