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Episode 126 | Field Notes – Ultralight Chairs: Performance or Luxury?
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Jun 2, 2025 at 2:45 am #3836011
Companion forum thread to: Episode 126 | Field Notes – Ultralight Chairs: Performance or Luxury?
Recovery isn’t passive. It’s a skill – and how you sit at camp might matter more than you think.
Jun 2, 2025 at 12:24 pm #3836022Wow, yet another highly informative and insightful episode, Ryan. Thank you. I’ve been in the “chair is a luxury” camp forever, but also recognize myself in your descriptions of how hard it is to find a ‘natural’ chair that’s comfortable enough to allow me to truly relax. My solution has been to lie down in tent in the afternoon and read for a while, and that’s helpful. But I want to be out of my tent and taking in the views and wildlife and sounds. Impossible to relax when I have to stand up and walk around every two minutes because the rock or log I’m sitting on doesn’t allow my body to relax–just the opposite, as you say. Your mentioning the necessity of the mind/emotions/body to find itself in a safe, comfortable and non-demanding environment is truly insightful. In a way, this last is the main reason we do all the hard work ‘getting there’, although of course we enjoy the journey as well. Looking back, I realize that I found myself most at home in difficult to reach places that involved some hazards reaching, often alone, contemplating the next days journey into still more snowy and remote places–all without a care in the world. Getting there requires more attention and skill to avoid a dozen different bad outcomes, from blisters to slipping on ice to river crossings to how to respond to that bear wandering by. Etc. I always feel centered in these circumstances, but you’re right, they’re all really demanding, whether I realize it at the time or not. Just climbing down a steep rocky trail with a 20 pound pack on requires a lot of vigilance, so yes, you’ve convinced me about the necessity of a GOOD chair after hours.
Apologies for my long windedness.
Jun 2, 2025 at 1:58 pm #3836028With much effort I got my base weight below 10 lbs years ago (I realize many won’t consider this particularly light) only to discover that I had gained comfort on my back at the expense of comfort/convenience/safety in camp, and as a result was less happy with my travels.
I now regularly pack a 2 lb Nemo Moonlight precisely because, for me, it is so comfortable and relaxing after a long day. For really high mileage days I pack a Chammock hammock chair, equally comfortable and relaxing but only 10 oz.
For all the reasons Ryan lists, and more, I consider a comfortable “chair” an absolute necessity.
Jun 2, 2025 at 4:25 pm #3836045I bought a Helinox and didn’t care for it. Returned it, the bought a Nemo. Now I’m sold.
Jun 3, 2025 at 1:40 pm #3836093+1 on the chair, and ++1 on the hammock chair if you live somewhere where trees to hang it are plentiful. I have back issues and find that something that supports my back at lunch breaks and the end of the day is essential. I have a Flexlite, but I find a hammock chair much more comfortable and more stable for cooking, eating, etc… particularly in soft ground.
Mine is a custom oversize gear hammock that i had Jared at SLD make for me in 1.6 hexan. With 7′ straps and a small sill bag it’s only 8.0 ounces; and if I have 2 trees of reasonable size ~4-6 feet apart, I can deploy it (beckett hitch) faster than my Flexlite. At night, it becomes a gear hammock for my sleeping hammock.Jun 3, 2025 at 2:39 pm #3836094I wish I could use a hammock as a chair for cooking, but in bear country I don’t want to risk getting food/food smell on my sleep system. This also applies to my chair kit, unfortunately. It’s nice to sit on while cooking and eating, but I choose to keep the kit on the pad for sleeping so I stopped using it for that.
Jun 4, 2025 at 6:27 pm #3836125I hike in black bear country (AT ~VA), and I do cook/eat >100 yards or so from camp. When cooking eating, I use the hammock chair more as a swing, so I’m leaning/eating over the ground; but I suppose I am exposing my gear hammock to the same fumes as my clothing. Neither is a big concern to me in black bear country, but i would change my practices in grizzly country so I could sleep at night.
Jun 5, 2025 at 12:37 pm #3836173i like the idea a hammock chair very much. but,
–i wouldn’t want to cook dinner in one
–thinking about it, there’s less flexibility in terms of positioning yourself for good views and all the rest. and since i don’t sleep in a hammock…maybe pay the weight penalty of a chair
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