- Jun 13, 2018 at 11:26 am #3541887
When you find a skirted pot of your liking, place it on top of the exhaust of this water boiling stove of Turkish design. The Stove is available on ebay. The Samovar:
Use your XGK-EX inside the bottom of the boiler where you see them burning twigs.
Modify, Modify and then Modify some moreJun 13, 2018 at 7:15 pm #3541946
Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
@ Edward John
The first post said “A clone of the Scott stove…”
Would one of the old Sigg tourist cook pot kits work paired with the SVEA 123 stove?
SVEA of course was a clone of the Primus (The First) burner that Nansen, Amundsen and others used for polar exploration.Jun 13, 2018 at 11:56 pm #3541989
Yes the ill-fated Scott of Antarctic infamy
Scotts stove system was different to Nansens and probably not as efficient but also probably a lot easier to DIY. Scott used a stacking pot array with a single pass heat flow and a full coverage windscreen, Nansen used an annular snow melting pot, a double pass heat flow. As for using a SVEA? While I like the small stove I would say it is far too small to melt snow for a party of 4 persons, which is probably the safe minimum party size in the low Arctic.
I guess either system/ both systems work well enough and you would need to be cautious and careful with bothJun 14, 2018 at 1:44 am #3542021Jun 14, 2018 at 1:53 am #3542023
Have you considered pasteurizing water, 180 degrees, instead of boiling to conserve fuel?
Have you considered using a 6 quart pressure cooker? That would cook a lot of beans with very little fuel. After breakfast, place beans in cooker to pre-soak until dinner time.
What is the most used food item you plan to cook?
Jun 14, 2018 at 2:00 am #3542024
- This reply was modified 4 months ago by Dan Y.
I’ve wondered about that photo. In it they seem to be using the inner lid as the stove base and they are not using the shrouding outer windshield. I suspect an early publicity photo for a major sponsor due to prominent display of the large tin in the foreground. What date do you think? Who are they? Where taken?Jun 14, 2018 at 5:14 am #3542041
No details on that photo.
It’s in this article :
(loads of great photos there…)Jun 14, 2018 at 5:41 am #3542044
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Quite a few of the photos look posed, but what do you expect?
CheersJun 14, 2018 at 11:27 pm #3542122
It was fun surfin the web today, learned alot
Weight: 1 lb. 2 oz / 0.5 kg
Material: Aluminum baking pot and lid with a treated steel base plate
Designed to bake on any type of burner. Not for use on an Induction Plate!
Make your own pot skirt:
EcoZoom Pot Skirt – Power Ring
CHRISTCHURCH, NEW ZEALAND: THE CANTERBURY MUSEUM
Double wall cook pot for Arctic trek
Guys name Sebastian. Photo of him with pot. Contact him, ask where he got the pot.
For Sebastian Copeland Adventures:
These numbers could be further improved if we combine the fireless cooker with the pressure cooker. If we use a pressure cooker to bring food to a boil and then put the pressure cooker into a fireless cooker, we can cook at 40%-90% efficiency, depending on the cooking stove used. This compares to a maximum of 23% for our western cooking stoves, and 40% — or at most 50% — for improved biomass stoves.
In its simplest form, the fireless cooker is a wooden, metal or plastic container filled with straw, old clothes, styrofoam, paper or any other insulation material. It can even be a cooking pot wrapped into a sleeping bag. Usually 5 to 10 cm of insulation is applied on all sides, the upper layer often in the form of an easy-to-handle, scaled-down mattress or pillow. A more cost-effective technique to lower energy use is hardly imaginable.
Sebastian Copeland with his double wall cook pot:Jun 15, 2018 at 4:13 am #3542158
Nice work Dan.
Has this one been discussed already ? :
Sorry, I have noticed that the Sebastian Copeland kit and the one in my link are the same.Jun 15, 2018 at 4:21 am #3542159
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Referenced in posting #1. Interesting but NOT light.
CheersJun 15, 2018 at 11:04 am #3542169
Roger, make one lighter and more fuel efficient :-)
Franco, nice find, the photos at that site are very informing…thank you!
Moondog can use all this info to build a unit for four people. He’s got the time before he ventures off on his trek. He ventured, he gained ;-)
Note: looks like all of Ulrich’s food was prepackaged and re-hydrated in a thermos. No cooking involved. I would use Mountain House meals :-) gotta love all that salt that makes it taste soooo good :-)Jun 15, 2018 at 12:22 pm #3542171
The Ulrich pot is 3 litres and it seems he travels solo. Thermos makes good sense and that or a LW haybox makes a facsimile of real food more likely. I have thought about sacrificing a TOAKS 170mm wide pot to use as the skirt. Much more robust than Ti foil, even a short skirt of 95mm would aid heat transfer I think. Is there a slightly larger Ti pot around with straight walls? But not the Evernew 5 litre, that is a little largeJun 15, 2018 at 12:43 pm #3542173
The discontinued REI 4 litre Ti pot was about the right size so maybe I’ll get lucky
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