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Clothing system for high altitude and varied conditions

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A.H BPL Member
PostedJun 13, 2018 at 10:59 pm

Hello ,
was interested in opening a discussion about the most useful and efficient layering system for 3 season mountainous hiking with varied weather condition .
what i use now:
long hiking pants and long sleeve wicking hiking shirt
1. Base layer : TNF hybrid top
Sub zero factor 1 leggings .
2. micro fleece top: Arcteryx fortrez hoody
3. Down hoody: Arcteryx Cerium LT
4. rain shell: Patagonia Alpine Houdini jacket
patagonia torentshell pants
5. Black diamond heavyweight liner gloves
6. Beanie

thoughts:
1. i’ve noticed that i almost never use the base layers, maybe only when i do laundry and need something to walk around in . if its super cold at night i might wear them altough i prefer to sleep naked but now since i have a new down quilt i think i will have to use the base layers each night
2. my microfleece layer is pretty heavy- 350 g. i’m considering switching it to a more breathable and lighter layer like the arcteryx konseal hoody weighing 300g or even a jacket since i take a beanie .
what microfleece do you use?
3. i do take the down jacket for a serious thermal layer but TBH it’s too warm to walk around in the mountains , the trails are strenuous . if its cold in the morning / evening when i hike i much prefer to put on the microfleece .
i understand that i have 2 items for my mid layers but they kinda do 2 different things for me.
4. my rain jacket is not very waterproof i’m afraid and it wets out fast in the shoulder and the arms section. the patagonia alpine houdini has very good reviews online and it is very light and packable , but i’m actually considering switching it for a more hardshell like layer . something like the arcteryx Alpha SL which is i believe a bombproof option for “only” 300g probably less since i wear the small size.

any thoughts?
thanks.

Edward John M BPL Member
PostedJun 14, 2018 at 12:06 am

You had better start by defining what you mean by High Altitude because for me that is 5000metres and above and what you list I would consider totally inadequate.

Bob Shuff BPL Member
PostedJun 14, 2018 at 12:26 am

I returned my alpine Houdini after it leaked badly on a recent day hike.  I switched to a Patagonia stretch rainshadow for 10.5 oz.

I usually wear a ss wicking shirt, and sometimes a ls vented sun/bug shirt or an R1 fleece for cooler weather hiking. Then a montbell anorak in camp.

I’m trying a slighltly different approach for Philmont this summer.  Still start with a wicking shirt, but plan to hike in a Ferrosi hooded jacket when cooler.  I might still bring the montbell anorak or possibly a Patagonia Nano Air for camp.  I lost my R1 to my son’s kit and really like the soft shell ferrosi so far in its place.  The Nano Air is for consideration of the possibly wetter monsoon conditions in NM.  In SoCal (or I hear the Sierra) the rain is short so I’d pick the lighter down option.

Lester Moore BPL Member
PostedJun 14, 2018 at 1:07 am

You had better start by defining what you mean by High Altitude

+1. Colorado mountains, Olympic National Park, Cordillera Blanca of Peru – all quite different 3 season conditions and clothing. Depending on where you are, the altitude, the amount of moisture and amount of snow all play a big role in your 3 season gear (May – Oct) to match the conditions.

Bruce Tolley BPL Member
PostedJun 15, 2018 at 5:30 am

@ AH

+ 1 to the need to define “high altitude.”

The Arcteryx jacket you mention is Goretex Paclite which would probably hold up better in sustained rain than the Houdini but if you expect a lot of rain and a lot of exertion while wearing a shell, you might want pit zips.

Many of Arcteryx’s SL (super light) shells have achieved low weight by losing the pit zips. Read the feature list and if pit zips are not named, the article of clothing does not have them.

The OR Foray Paclite shell has pit zips that you can totally unzip so it is almost like a small poncho.

John Vance BPL Member
PostedJun 15, 2018 at 4:07 pm

Most of my three season hiking is done between 10,500 to 13,000 feet in elevation in the inter mountain west. I hike in shorts 99% of the time and carry no long pants. I do however, carry some 15d windpants and silkweight long underwear bottoms but use both primarily for camp and sleeping. My hiking top is a mock t 1/4 zip long sleeve shirt and in the shoulder seasons I bring a 100wt fleece top for sleeping and cold days. I also bring a Houdini wind shirt as well.

I find this to be perfectly adequate for my needs with day temps in the 30’s to the 70’s. I have been caught at times with colder day temps and have a silk weight long top that can be added to the mix as well if needed, but it is my sleep top and I like to keep it as clean as possible. I also carry a warm down vest for stops and in camp on the coldest days.

I find when on the move I don’t need much and don’t mind being a bit on the cold side. If it’s too cold in camp for my clothing, I just get in my bag.

Armand C BPL Member
PostedJul 7, 2018 at 1:16 am

The Alpha SL has zero venting. If you’re a warm body you are begging for a miserable experience. You’ll be drenched on the inside quickly.

Consider the Black Diamond Liquid Point instead.

A: It’s cheaper than the Alpha SL

B: It has pockets

C: It has pit zips

D: Same Paclite construction

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