- Sep 13, 2019 at 9:45 am #3610032
Hello! My name is Huzefa and I make custom outdoor quilts.
I invite you to visit my new website, blueboltgear.com. It’s still on soft launch but I would like to know what you think works good and what you think can be improved. Please share your thoughts. I very much would appreciate them.
At this time, I have 3 products:
1.) custom 2-person and solo high performance outdoor quilts
2.) dehydrated Indian meals
3.) 13mm Silver pad (R2.32)
If you’re in the market for a new sleeping bag, why not try my high-performance outdoor quilts? Field tested by Peter Van Geit in his recent 4-month trans Himalayan expedition (http://ultrajourneys.org/trans-himalaya-2019-minimalist-shelter).
It comes with a 60-day risk-free trial period. And you also get 15% off the selling price by using the code BPL15OFF at checkout (valid till 30th of September).
If you’d like to add flavor and variety to your camping and backpacking meal plan, why not get a 14-variety meal box set of dehydrated Indian meals?
And you also get 15% off the selling price by using the code BPL15OFF at checkout (valid till 30th of September).
Thank you and have a great weekend!
HuzefaSep 13, 2019 at 9:48 am #3610033
Here is a clickable link to my site: blueboltgear.comSep 13, 2019 at 12:42 pm #3610043
@mhrLocale: San Juan Mtns.
That is an impressive looking bag!
Great timing for me as I am currently replacing all my down products. I am intrigued.Sep 13, 2019 at 8:41 pm #3610070
Rex SandersBPL Member
@rexLocale: Central California Coast
Interesting. A few questions on your solo quilt:
- How much does the 10F model weigh?
- What weight of Climashield Apex do you use in the 10F model?
- What is the recommended height limit? 84 inches length should fit someone how tall?
- Does it have a neck collar to block drafts?
- Does the inner waterproof silnylon fabric feel clammy in warmer/humid conditions?
— RexSep 13, 2019 at 11:15 pm #3610094
It’s great to see new cottage suppliers emerging! But I think your store still needs a bit of development.
You asked for feedback, and I spent quite a lot of time in web marketing and copy-writing.
You just about cover the basics, but as Rex’s post illustrates, there are still important details that are missing. For example the insulation thickness, weights and packed volumes for each version – I’d have thought a 10f synthetic would be pretty bulky and heavy? And there are options you don’t illustrate, like the two foot-boxes. And how does the draft collar work? What about pad attachments? And so on. This is a technical purchase aimed at geeky customers – you need to give them all the detail they need.
More generally, I think you need to flesh out the details of your design approach. What’s different about your product, and what niche do you feel you are filling? You say you developed a new fabric, but this sounds surprising from such a tiny outfit – you need to flesh this out a bit to make it credible. You say you have a patent pending vapour barrier – I would need to know the details. Why would I even want that in a 25f or 10f quilt, when it’s usually used for severe cold? And how does it work? What are the pros and cons?
A good exercise would be to comb through your competitor’s sites and see how they have tackled these issues. Nunatak, for example, do a pretty good job:
You also have to address the issue of customer trust. You are new, and based overseas for the UK and US markets, so customers would have to take a risk with you compared with going with an established supplier. Literally 100 years of practical testing has proven that reviews and testimonials are the way to build trust in direct marketing – you need as many as possible from credible and experienced users.
Also, colour. I’ve spent a fair bit of time in India, and am aware that we in the West have a different aesthetic from you guys. Personally, i would find the blue/black/yellow/red combination hard to live with. You might want to offer some choice, or if that’s not practical, make your standard offering a bit more conservative and muted like, say, the popular MLD quilts. This would have wider appeal, I think.
Finally, in this day and age, there’s a lot to be said for encapsulating all this in a video – it would make the product much easier for customers to visualise. As a cottage supplier you don’t need to worry too much about production values – people will be charitable. Simply show us the product in as much detail as possible.
Bottom line, as your site stands I wouldn’t feel able to make a purchase without bombarding you with questions, which takes time and effort. There are lots of good alternatives in the market, so if you make it hard for me to buy, I’m probably going elsewhere.
I hope you don’t mind me being blunt – this is offered in the spirit of constructive criticism in the hope that it will help an interesting new supplier get off the ground.Sep 14, 2019 at 3:42 am #3610125
Paul HBPL Member
That feedback bar on the side of your site makes me not want to bother looking through, as it blocks part of the page.Sep 14, 2019 at 9:41 pm #3610223
nunatak down gearBPL Member
I like it. Looks great, combining new and tried ideas. Good luck!Sep 16, 2019 at 5:03 am #3610382
Guys, thank you for taking time to visit my website and sharing your comments, questions and feedback.
Please keep them coming as I am keen to learn and improve. I highly appreciate your time and input!Sep 16, 2019 at 5:04 am #3610383
Matt, Thanks! I sent you a PM.Sep 16, 2019 at 5:06 am #3610384
Rex, great questions. Thank you! I sent you a PM and will update the details on my website.
Answers to your questions about solo quilt:
Sep 16, 2019 at 5:23 am #3610386
- How much does the 10F model weigh? 30.4 oz w/ sack
- What weight of Climashield Apex do you use in the 10F model? 7.5oz / sqyd
- What is the recommended height limit? 84 inches length should fit someone how tall? Fits upto 6ft, I can customize it as per user height.
- Does it have a neck collar to block drafts? No neck collar but it has draft stoppers which block drafts effectively.
- Does the inner waterproof silnylon fabric feel clammy in warmer/humid conditions? In testing 10F quilt below 30F, there is no clammy feeling. The breathable draft stopper allows moisture to breath out.
Geoff, wow. This is great feedback! Thank you.
I am working on implementing all it asap.Sep 16, 2019 at 5:30 am #3610387
Paul, Thanks for your feedback! I have removed the side feedback bar.Sep 16, 2019 at 5:53 am #3610389
Nunatak down gear, Thank you! I am glad you like it.
I want to elaborate on “combining new and tried ideas.”.
The design is inspired by the tried ideas of Ray Jardine, early pioneer of UL backpacking who has used 2-person synthetic quilts successfully in Greenland, South pole, Vinson and Aconcagua.
- Draft stoppers along the edges
- Gorget – a shaped top section which insulates the head.
Some new ideas I have added to improve the performance:
Oct 1, 2019 at 11:43 am #3612274
- Built in Vapor-barrier to stop condensation
- Breathable, windproof draft stoppers (instead of Silnylon Ray Jardine uses) to let moisture breathe out
- 3D foot box for comfort and higher thermal efficiency.
- new 10D fabrics – lighter, better performance
- Climashield Apex insulation – improved insulation performance.
Big improvements on the site! Needs a bit of proof-reading though, and I think you’ve got the wrong weight of Apex in the specs for the 10f solo quilt.
Much clearer about the thinking behind the design, but I do still have some questions.
First, do you really get a dewpoint inside the quilt at just -5C? From what I’ve seen, people generally begin to use barriers or double-quilt systems at much lower temperatures than that.
Second, you say that you found the VB added 10-15f compared to a breathable fabric, which seems a lot. What do you think is going on to cause this?
And lastly, one of the big advantages of a quilt is the ability to use it in a wide range of temperatures. In the Western Alps, for example, you could easily spend one night at -5c on a high camp and at 18c on the next night in the valley. How would the vapour barrier work on a warm, humid night? I’m guessing that in the Himalaya you won’t be experiencing such extreme variations, but this is quite common in lower ranges.
As I’ve said, great to see someone thinking outside the box. I hope this takes off for you!Oct 1, 2019 at 1:59 pm #3612285
Just a thought about extending the temperature range, assuming you agree that the VB wouldn’t work at higher temps.
For a MYOG project for my own needs, how about making the quilt with
- A waterproof breathable outer like the RSBTR .7 oz MTN
- A 7d breathable inner
- A detachable VB (using snap clips?)
That way you could have it breathe a bit more when it’s hot, and clip on the VB when it’s cold. And you could dry it quickly if it got wet.
The weight penalty would be around 2 oz, which is hardly crippling – with Apex, I’d feel comfortable about using a 7d fabric for the breathable inner. What do you think?Oct 1, 2019 at 5:38 pm #3612308
me of courseBPL Member
I’ve done this (or, more correctly, enlightened equipment did this for me). I have a 30° quilt and a 50° quilt that can snap together for extra warmth if needed. I also have a cuben quilt liner that snaps into either quilt. All 3 pieces work separately or together in any configuration. Works great.Oct 3, 2019 at 11:04 am #3612463
Hi Geoff, thank you for your feedback and excellent questions!
I will get the site proof read by some one and I have edited the incorrect Apex specs you pointed out.
>>First, do you really get a dewpoint inside the quilt at just -5C?
Dew point can be inside the quilt af -5C or even warmer temperature under certain conditions such as
1. when sleeping out in the open under the stars (radiative heat loss)
2. when single wall tent / tarp camping in snowfall and the bag is touching the tent / tarp wall (high humidity + conductive heat loss)
I have read many post on BPL where people had condensation in the bivy in the condition 1 and then concluded the issue is with the bivy. Without a VB inner, the condensation is in unavoidable.
>>Second, you say that you found the VB added 10-15f compared to a breathable fabric, which seems a lot. What do you think is going on to cause this?
The convective, conductive and evaporative heat loss is minimized by using zero permeability (0 cfm) VB and low permeability (5 cfm) windproof shell. CFM means cubic feet of air per minute and is a number that measures air permeability. For comparison, Membrane 10 from RBTR has CFM ~48.
>>And lastly, one of the big advantages of a quilt is the ability to use it in a wide range of temperatures.
Peter Van Geit tested my solo VB quilt in extreme variations between 1000m – 5000m in the Indian Himalayas for 4 months and found the quilt comfortable – – he was able to adjust its coverage as needed.
I found VB inner quilt works fine at higher temperatures as the quilt breathes through the breathable draft stopper. Feedback I got from early users supports this.
One way to take VB to warmer condition with more comfort is to make a convertible footbox that can be opened in warmer conditions. I offer this as a custom option.
The reason I made a custom 10d taffeta silynlon is to have a more comfortable fabric next to the skin than other 15D and 20D coated fabrics. IMO it feels nicer than the 7D ripstop from RBTR which I have worked with.
Your idea for MYOG project is one I have considered before. One issue with this approach is that it will result in condensation in many conditions where i want to avoid it – just search “waterproof bivy condensation problem” and you will see what I mean. If you decide to go this route, use eVent or fabric used by milesbivy as these have been found to have least condensation issues. But the penalty is weight – these fabrics are 2+ oz/yd² while the 10D shell I am using is 0.74 oz/yd².
The issue I have with using 7D waterproof breathable with VB inner is that the quilt would be difficult to dry if it did get wet.
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