Alternatives to Fly Creek UL2

In my opinion comparing ba fc to zpacks duplex makes little sense.
First decide if you really need that freestanding feature. If you can live without it you are open to a much broader range of products. There are non cuben shelters which are almost half the price and still very very light.

Nemo Hornet 2P

Big Sky Soul –  Free standing in the 40 ounce range for $290

http://bigskyproducts.com/big-sky-soul-x2p-tent-ultralight-bargain.aspx

SMD Lunar Duo perhaps.

@tauneutrino I do not need the free standing feature, but I do want a shelter with a inner tent / bug net. What suggestions do you have?

I thought i would clarify by saying that I do not need the freestanding feature of the fly creek, but I do want an inner tent / bug liner and floor.

are you saying you want a double wall tent like the fly creek or is a single wall o.k.( I understand that it not being freestanding is fine)

Recent discussion, similar topic:

https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/best-1-2-person-tent/

Also check out the new releases from TarpTent.

I’ve been taking a good look at TarpTent myself, and the Moment DW is intriguing.  Just two pegs, so almost freestanding.

I would actually prefer options that can use trekking poles.
Take a look at the just announced Tarptent Saddle.

(already suggested but here is the link :https://www.tarptent.com/whatsnew.html)
Not ready yet but coming out very soon.
About the same weight as the MoTrail .

A feature that some will like is that the fly doors don’t have zippers (they overlap) and if in tight spaces you can eliminate one vestibule and just have that side flat against a bush/tree/wall whatever. Takes 2×25″ wide mats.

franco@tarptent

@annapurna Not sure, I don’t really have experience with the condensation issues that people typically experience with 1 wall tents. Do you have any opinions one way or the other?

@franco the The Saddle 2 looks promising, I’m going to do a bit more research

Freestanding is so overrated.

If I take a tent( I usually am a tarp person)I take a single wall

CLEVER HIKER ULTRALIGHT TENTS TARPS AND BIVYS .

@annapurna Does increasing ventilation for 1 wall tents to prevent condensation lead to colder nights?

. CONDENSATION IN SINGLE-WALLED SHELTERS: CONTRIBUTING FACTORS AND TIPS FOR REDUCTION .

At $248 on sale the SMD Lunar Duo seems almost like a no-brainer. That said, Tarptent makes a great product.

One thing about the Lunar Duo is it’s huge. A 2-person tent that actually accommodates 2 people is a rarity these days. Although I have heard that the TTs are also generously (and realistically) sized as well. For the rare times that I need a 2-person tent  I might just get a Lunar Duo.

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What abt lighthearted gear?  The lighthearted solo appears to be a good choice.  I’ve never been in one but I like the reviews of it.

What abt lighthearted gear?  The lighthearted solo appears to be a good choice.  I’ve never been in one but I like the reviews of it.

Not the Solo for 2P. It has a lot of room, but the diamond-shaped floor leaves only enough room for 1 to sleep comfortably. Could work for an adult+child or +dog.

For those who are seeking a traditional tent from a mainline manufacturer, the Mountain Hardware Ghost UL 2 might be a better choice than the BA Fly Creek UL 2. Several years ago I bought the Ghost predecessor, the Supermega UL 2, after a side by side comparison with a BA Fly Creek. The big difference is that the tent entrance leans outwards rather than inwards, offering crucial headspace for those of use who are taller than 6 feet. But the OP should consider reading the extensive discussions on this site about single wall tents, cuben fiber, and shaped tarps, before making a decision.

If you want a comparable 2P tent with a fly and inner tent, the Nemo Hornet 2P is your best comparison. I have the 1P version and prefer it over the BA Fly Creek. It’s side entry, the peak height is at the optimal position (where you would sit up), and it has more usable space.

If the OP is asking for a shelter with an inner tent, then half of the suggestions given are eliminated.

Jason said he was not sure if he wanted a single or double wall tent that is why I asked him, and he answered

Not sure, I don’t really have experience with the condensation issues that people typically experience with 1 wall tents. Do you have any opinions one way or the other?

In the OP he mentions looking at the Mo Trail which is a single wall tent.

Nothing that I could add to Will Rietveld’s superb article, that’s for sure.

My experience with single wall shelters (Duplex and Duomid) is that condensation is rarely a big problem and is usually easily managed. Use a bandana, pack towl or sponge to wipe it down occasionally, if needed.

There are conditions where condensation is going to occur and there’s nothing you can do about it. A couple of years ago I encountered very wet conditions with rain, high humidity and high dew points that caused condensation inside my Duomid which was then dislodged by heavy rain to create misting inside the tent. Fortunately I had decided to bring my synthetic quilt (EE Prodigy) which combined with the occasional wipe-down with my bandana kept it under control.

Overall, however, not a big problem… definitely not enough for me to carry the extra weight of a double wall.