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Alternative to a Thermarest Neo Air

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Jerry A BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 12:59 pm

Love my Neo x lite, I have the wide version and the most recent model.It is light and comfortable, but my family is going to leave me due to the noise.Who makes a Quilt Pad with similar specs.I have a Nemo with the foot pump(awesome) but weight is the issue. Thanks for advice.

 

 

Jerry A BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 1:16 pm

I take it your not married with kids or you are the Man of the house.I just say yes Dear..

PostedMay 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm

Tim Marshall posted that his new pad cover will not tone down the noise.

Jerry A BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 4:14 pm

What is plan “B” then..I guess a Neo Air Xlite with no R value..I think the noise is the insulation..

Paul S. BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 4:16 pm

The X Therm might be quieter. My All Season isn’t very loud. Exped mats are a popular option but I’ve read the top fabric can be squeaky.

Andrew D BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 5:41 pm

I used an Exped Synmat UL 7 S specifically because I didn’t like the noise of the Neoair. Or the feel. The Exped is much more soft in my opinion.

Little heavier than the Neoair, but I’m a light sleeper. Needed some quiet time!

Currently retired my UL 7 S and moved to a Exped Synmat Duo for the lady.

Jerry A BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 7:13 pm

Read a post where a guy said the more you sleep on it the quieter it get’s..I’m going to sleep on it for 2 months and see..

lee kingry BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 8:29 pm

Jerry my NeoAir short Square old style was very noisy at the beginning after a month on the trail packing unpacking sitting so forth I don’t think I even think about it now it’s seriously quieted down I also use a woman’s NeoAir x-lite in the shoulder season and it was quieter to start with and again after 6 weeks on the trail I don’t think it makes half as much noise it’s probably a lot more packing unpacking and being in the pack that quieted it, a lot like washing  Tyvek a couple of times to get rid of the noise on a ground cloth

Rex Sanders BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2017 at 9:48 pm

You might want to take another look at Nemo pads, especially their relatively new Tensor line, which they claim is quiet. Unfortunately, it’s a little hard to compare warmth:

Thermarest NeoAir XLite, 25 x 77 x 2.5 inches, 16 ounces, warmth: “R-value 3.2”

Nemo Tensor 25L, 25 x 76 x 3 inches, 18 ounces, warmth: “30 to 40F”

Nemo Astro Lite 25L, 25 x 76 x 3.5 inches, 18 ounces, warmth: “35 to 45F”

Nemo Tensor Insulated 25L, 25 x 76 x 3 inches, 21 ounces, warmth: “15 to 25F”

Nemo Astro Insulated Lite 25L, 25 x 76 x 3.5 inches, 23 ounces, warmth: “15 to 25F”

I’ve used an Astro Insulated Lite 20R for a few years, and it’s comfortable, warm, and quiet.

— Rex

PostedMay 9, 2017 at 9:44 pm

Anyone using a Big Agnes q-core Slx?

It intrigues me but I’m concerned about their clear avoidance of the r-rating.

same goes for the nemo mats.

Rex – what sort of temperatures were you looking at with the nemo?

Rex Sanders BPL Member
PostedMay 9, 2017 at 11:22 pm

R-values:. Roger Caffin and Will Rietveld’s 2011 testing (Part 1, Part 2) has lots of gory but important details, even if most of the pads they tested are history. “Just quoting an R-value for a mat does not tell you nearly as much as you need to know.”

I’ve been toasty down to around freezing using a Western Mountaineering Megalite 30° bag with the Nemo Astro Insulated Lite 20R . Definitely didn’t feel the cold through the Nemo, as opposed to most of the pads I’ve used.

— Rex

 

Diane Pinkers BPL Member
PostedMay 10, 2017 at 6:06 am

I went from using a NeoAir to a Sea to Summit insulated mat, and even though it is not a thick as a NeoAir, I find I prefer it.  I have the wide Comfort Light, and while it is not as cushy, I also don’t have the sensation that I’m going to roll off of it, so I relax and get a better night’s sleep.  I also LOVE the extra large deflation valve–so much quicker to pack the mat!  It is a little heavier, but the weight penalty is worth it for better sleep, and it is not such delicate material, so durability may be a plus.

PostedMay 13, 2017 at 3:25 pm

The technology for a 1 lb. WINTER (5 R or better) mat is still “not there” so I’ll continue using my Thermarest Trail Pro before laying out more money for a lighter pad.

For 3 season use my Prolite regular is fine. In colder shoulder season or high altitude weather my outer clothes always go under the Prolite, helping considerably with R value.

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