A nice little alcohol cookset

Zelph put a very similar system together for me that has been my go-to solo stove for the last two years.  It works really well – but I will say that I use it exclusively for boiling water.

I like the chimney design of the 10-12, it provides a very nice flame spot on the pot.  Additionally, it is a battle tested stove known to work in extreme conditions.  My 2 cents.

I used it on an early winter trip with a toaks siphon stove and slightly foil covered (1 inch strip around  to add some wind protection) hardware cloth stand. No other wind protection needed.  3/4 oz (by volume) was more than enough to get a good fairly fast 2 cup boil out of it even with some windy weather.

I don’t need another stove setup (says my rational self), but I really like what you’ve put together Jon. May I ask where you purchased the different components? I went to your website but didn’t see it there.

Sterno Inferno ($21-$24)

10-12 alcohol stove kit ($11.95)

https://www.traildesigns.com/products/12-10-stove#:~:text=The%2012%2D10%20alcohol%20stove,hole%20you%20see%20on%20top.

10 Imusa Lid ($6.95)

https://dutchwaregear.com/product/imusa-pot-lids/

http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/zz-imusa-mug-10cm-lids.php

Here is a short video of me discussing the cook kit

I miss being able to use alcohol stoves.

Love the weight and simplicity of alcohol stoves…and then there is the zen of this type of stove. Calm.  Quiet.  You gotta love that.

Don’t love the potentially leaky fuel bottle, the distinct possibility of a “knock over” disaster, and the 5x longer boil times vs. a canister stove.

I currently use a canister stove, but I’m torn.  It seems like whatever system I am using, I am constantly lured by “the other side”.  Perhaps an indication of a personality disorder :)

@JCH – My Sterno Inferno alcohol system addresses all of your concerns:

• I burn Everclear 190 so even if there’s a fuel leak in my pot I can drink it
• Zelph’s Starlyte Stove has a mesh screen and is spillproof so I don’t have to worry about the “knock over”
• And I don’t think it’s any slower than just 4 times a typical canister stove ;)

Zelph gave me a small silicone disk to use as a snuffer for the Starlyte but I just set my pot on it (or the side of the windscreen) to snuff it out and then when it cools I put the lid on the stove and save the alcohol for the next boil.  It’s a sweet little system – he designed a roll-up cone to hold the pot.

The beauty of using the 10-12 stove is that it provides a nice flame “spot” on the mug using the  default windscreen that comes with the original kit.  With a Starlyght, you would either need a custom windscreen/mug stand or a stove stand to set it at the correct height.  Correct me if I am wrong about this; I don’t personally own a Starlyte.

People who are worried about alcohol spills should consider using gelled alcohol like Swiss Fire Gel.  My 2 cents.

@kbabione – unfortunately everclear 190 is not legal in FL…we can only get 150 which I assume would not work well being 25% water. Although…190 IS legal in GA which is only an hour north :)

I know zelph has been very active on BPL, I have enjoyed his posts and am certain his bling is of the highest quality.  I thought I heard he is backing away from the stove biz and retiring?

FYI – I burn Everclear 150, it is a little slower but not bad.  I have not tried it in a 10-12 stove though.  I suspect that it will work fine.  My 2 cents.

P.S. Hand Sanitizer will also work (70% ethanol)

@JCH – Everclear 190 is not available for sale in PA either unless you have a permit (we have “State Stores” which is where liquor is sold).  To get a permit you must sign your life away that you are not purchasing the Everclear 190 to drink and you must tell them what you plan to do with it!  I said it’s stove fuel and got my permit!  It’s on file at one store and they have to pull it each time I buy some (every couple of years).  Ridiculous!

My Starlyte Stove and Fancee Feest stoves will always be available.

Thanks Dan. And apologies if I posted incorrect information.

Looks good but I question whether the use of fins on the pot bottom gives any better efficiency.

I think my Trail Designs Sidewinder Caldera Cone stove is even more efficient with its KOJIN alcohol stove. So far I have not seen any other stove type for alcohol that is more efficient.

Eric,

I agree 100%, with alcohol stoves (or Esbit)  I am not convinced that fins are significant.  TD products are great.  A Caldera Cone will set you back $34.95 (mug not included and it will not fit inside your mug).  The Caldera Sidewinder Solo is $54.95.  So $22 buck for the Sterno Inferno and add $12 buck for a 10-12 stove add up to $34.  That is not a bad price for a starter alcohol system just to boil water.  My 2 cents

Jon or Kevin, any idea what just the Inferno pot w/ aftermarket 10 Imusa Lid weigh?

Inferno Mug and Imusa Lid come in at 138 grams / 4.87 oz.

Jon, I agree with the price-for-benefit of that little stove. Good starter stove with better efficiency than many others.

Yeah, my Trail Designs ti Sidewinder stove (and Inferno wood burning insert) was expensive but I’ve used it far more than I thought I would and in all seasons. Great for melting snow with the Inferno insert. No extra fuel to carry. So I have made it amortize its cost. ;o)

Inferno Mug and Imusa Lid come in at 138 grams / 4.87 oz.

Thanks!

[I am leaving this post up and “unreporting” it in order to maintain continuity of this thread – MK]

the 12-10 stove is lousy in confined stove kits. Highly ineffiicient thats why they sold the Starlyte burner with their kits. The aluminum will soften and collapse when you least expext it. This photo and information is found here on bpl:

Eric said

Looks good but I question whether the use of fins on the pot bottom gives any better efficiency.

Roger stated there is 30% increase in efficiency….ask him!

Maybe nobody listens to him….dunno :-)

Dan,

I think that I can honesty say that there are a number of members who are tired of you denigrating other stove manufactures (and yes, I reported your post).  You think that you are knowledgeable by showing an example of 10-12 stove problem and claiming that there is a design problem and that thw 10-12 stove be avoided.  Trail Designs is an exceptional company who designs, build and test great products.  The 10-12 is probably one of the most tested and highest volume light weight alcohol stove out there (other than Trangia).

You should make full disclosure that you had a business relationship with Trail Designs and that the parts that you supplied to them were not acceptable for some of their customers.   It was not a great ending to the relationship.  Your disdain for TD is pretty obvious.  You can also tell your disdain by continuing to purposely spelling people’s name incorrectly.

I am strongly suggesting that you alter some of your reponse such that they add value to this forum.  In this thread, you could have mentioned how the StarLyte could be used with the Sterno Inferno kit rather taking shots at other manufacture.   You could have mentioned your customer windscreen to drop weight.  Think about how you can add value without trying to tear someone down.

Hey Dan – I’m in agreement with Jon on this one. With your stove experience (which impressed me enough to buy one of your StarLyte’s) I should be looking forward to seeing DanY comments because I might learn something, but I’ve resigned myself to expect snide remarks instead. You could be so much better.