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New Cord – UltraGlide Bear Line – Introductory Sale

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Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 2:29 pm

I just wanted to tell you about a new product I am releasing today. Its is called UltraGlide Bear Line. It was designed for bear bagging. I am offering it at a introductory sale price for the first few weeks. Though I might run out of stock before I raise the price.

Here is the description off my website:

“Our UltraGlide Bear Line is a single braid line that was specifically designed to be used as a bear bagging line. It is Ultra Strong, Ultra Slick, Ultra Light and Ultra Tough. Our cord is made using Spectra 1000 which is one of the slickest, strongest and lightest weight fibers ever created. Unlike other throw lines on the market that have vinyl or urethane coatings. Ours does not, as we wanted to maximize its slipperyness. Spectra Fibers Coefficient of Friction is comparable to that of Teflon, but the Spectra Fiber we use has much better abrasion resistance. 15 times more abrasion resistance than carbon steel. This is like having a non-stick coating on your throwline. Which means, that our UltraGlide effortlessly glides and slides over tree limbs and will not get hung up. Gear testers have commented that it feels like there is a pulley in the tree’s. While its super slick, it holds knots well but we recommend using a figure 8 knot with an extra long tail or splicing the cord with a loop at the end. The diameter is little larger than other throwlines, so its easier on your hands and tree limbs. While it has not been officially third party break tested as of yet, we estimate the break strength to be over 1,000lbs. So strong enough to hang a bear. This is the best bear bagging line out there. Period. This cord is manufactured in house on our braiding machines using the best quality yarns available. Diameter: 2.5mm (7/64″), Weight: 1.65oz per 50′, Break Strength: TBD, Made In USA”

Let me know if you have any questions.

LawsonEquipment.com

Thanks,
Lawson

Ryan Smith BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 4:18 pm

Without the coating, how is the knot tying/holding capability?

Ryan

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 4:22 pm

I try not to carry any cord that weighs more than one ounce per 100 feet.

I have some Dyneema stuff that weighs less than a half-ounce per 100 feet.

–B.G.–

PostedJan 13, 2015 at 4:37 pm

^^^

Bob,
Do you have problems with it cutting into the limb?
Or are you fortunate enough to find dead stubs sticking out far enough?

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 5:03 pm

It holds knots pretty good considering how slick it is, but I think its best to leave a little bit longer tail. The other nice feature is that its a single braid so essentially you can spice an eye. The easiest one to do is the brummel splice. Its easy and super strong.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 6:05 pm

Hi Lawson

> This cord is manufactured in house on our braiding machines
Do you own braiding machines, or is this a quote from the actual rope manufacturer?

Cheers

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 7:36 pm

Hey Roger,

It is a quote from the manufacturer… ME! : ) Yes I own my own braiding machines. You didn't know this? I own quite a few of them. I bought them several years back. Its the reason I am able to make awesome cord and offer it for so cheap. No middle man jacking the costs up. I also do contract manufacturing with them as well.. So if you need anything made, let me know.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedJan 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm

Photos – must have photos!
Otherwise we don't believe in any machines … :-)
OK, I am impressed.

Cheers

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 2:30 am

"Do you have problems with it cutting into the limb?"

No. That is because I haven't hung food for a long time since bear canisters became mandatory or near so where I go.

Sometimes I carry a long cord to aid in difficult stream crossings. For one crossing, I needed more than 50 feet, but I had 100 feet in hand.

–B.G.–

IVO K BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 5:39 am

Perhaps it is only I who has an issue with this, but I believe that merchandise has to meet its specifications. And that manufacturer specifications need to be accurate.
This is how we are able to evaluate, judge, compare similar pieces of merchandise, and what drives our decision-making regarding purchases.

In his post here, and on his web site Lawson states that the diameter of the line is, quote 2.5mm (7/64"), unquote.
In the introductory email about this new product which I received as a loyal customer, the diameter was specified at, quote 2mm (3/32"), unquote.

Lawson, buddy, these 4 figures (2.5 mm, 2 mm, 7/64", 3/32") do not match each other at all. Neither of the metric values equals either of the imperial ones.

So, I need to ask:
– does this line have an inconsistent variable diameter along its length?
– does it frequently change its diameter depending upon the phase of the moon, the time of the day, or the ambient temperature?
– is it one line or you are manufacturing 4 different ones where the diameters vary due to the braiding machine being used, and the customers would get whatever they get?
– do you think discrepancies like this are tolerable as they would be left unnoticed on a site like BPL?

What exactly are you trying to sell us?

PostedJan 14, 2015 at 6:56 am

"No. That is because I haven't hung food for a long time …"

Thanks Bob. Good to know.

And, good have 100' of strong line for the unexpected.

J-L BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 6:59 am

Are you sure you're not confusing his 2mm Glowire with his 2.5mm Ultraglide Bear Line?

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 8:08 am

Ivo,
Thanks for being a loyal customer over the years. I first wrote the product description as 2mm earlier in the day and then thought I had changed the size from 2mm to 2.5mm a little later in the day as I felt that it better described te size of the cord, as its between my 2mm and 3mm glowire. Someone emailed me right after I sent the newsletter asking about the size, and I realized that I must of not saved the changes on my website and when I copied and pasted the description off the website into the newsletter it was wrong. So I am very sorry about this. I was not trying to deceive anyone. It was nothing more than a mistake. As far as sizing goes. The cord size is closest to 2.5mm. While I realize 7/64" does not equal 2.5mm, it is a common imperial cord size and the cord is larger than 3/32" and smaller than 1/8". I hope this info helps.

Thanks again
Lawson

IVO K BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 10:18 am

Hey Lawson,

Thanks for the clarification.

I never hinted at a deception, I just thought that a correct spec might be as important for the rest of the BPL readers as it is for me.

I never doubted you are producing this line with a consistent diameter….
;-)

IVO K BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 10:23 am

@ John Harper:

I am pretty sure I am not confusing anything.
Here's the email in question:

_______
I just wanted to tell you about a new product I am releasing today. Its is called UltraGlide Bear Line.

"Our UltraGlide Bear Line was specifically designed to be used as a bear bagging line. It is Ultra Strong, Ultra Slick, and Ultra Tough. Our cord is made using Spectra 1000 which is one of the slickest, strongest and lightest weight fibers ever created. Unlike other throw lines on the market that have vinyl or urethane coatings. Ours does not, as we wanted to maximize its slipperyness. Spectra Fibers Coefficient of Friction is comparable to that of Teflon, but the Spectra Fiber we use has much better abrasion resistance. 15 times more abrasion resistance than carbon steel. This is like having a non-stick coating on your throwline. Which means, that our UltraGlide effortlessly glides and slides over tree limbs and will not get hung up. Gear testers have commented that it feels like there is a pulley in the tree's. While it has not been officially third party break tested as of yet, we estimate the break strength to be over 1,000lbs. This is the best bear bagging line out there. Period. This cord is manufactured in house on our braiding machines using the best quality yarns available. Diameter: 2mm (3/32"), Weight: 1.65oz per 50', Break Strength: TBD, Made In USA"
_______

Pretty much the same as Lawson's first post above, but with different dimensions.

USA Duane Hall BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 10:59 am

Ivo "- does it frequently change its diameter depending upon the phase of the moon, the time of the day, or the ambient temperature?"
Love it. :)

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedJan 14, 2015 at 10:24 pm

Roger, photos don't do braiding machines justice. I have been meaning to make a short video for a while now. When I get around to it I will post a link.

Jim C BPL Member
PostedJan 20, 2015 at 11:02 am

My bear line came in today. I'm not sure how well this photo demonstrates it, but it is appreciably thicker than the 2 mm glowire, so 2.5 mm sounds about right.

Bear line and glowire

PostedJan 22, 2015 at 11:48 am

Lawson, i'm just wondering how this new cord compares to the kevlar cord you had a while back but then discontinued? That was also nicely slippery, though prone to tangling (solved that by coiling it around my fuel bottle for storage). Yes, I'm a confirmed Lawson cord addict, but I can stop any time I want so I'm not overly concerned. Waiting arrival of the new cord, thanks for your great cord / stake work.

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedJan 28, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Harold. As far as how it compares to the Vectran cord I made. It has a similar construction and size but is made from Spectra fiber instead. The Spectra is more slippery and will melt. The problem with the Vectran is you cannot not melt the ends as its fire resistant. So it works better as core material or you have to splice it.. Though the Vectran is some super impressive stuff. The cut resistance is 3.5 times more than Spectra/Dyneema.. So you need a good knife. Its an awesome fiber. Just different… Thanks for being a cord addict. It helps to keep my braiding machines running : ) I think good cord goes along with duct tape, super glue, and WD40. You can pretty much use it for anything. Save your life. Hang a mountain lion. Tie up a burglar, barricade your doors so your mother in law can't come in, Etc, Etc.. People tell me all the crazy things they have used my cords for so its always good to hear its being used and not sitting in some corner gathering dust. To most people cord/rope is boring. To me.. Its super interesting. Especially the mind blowing ones. Super thin. But super strong. For all of you who have purchased the Ultraglide. Here is something that might make your head spin.. Each one of the tiny strands is rated to over 100 lbs of break strength. There are 16 of them…

Thanks again to everyone, for all the business! In a few weeks I am going to release 100' hanks of the Ultraglide for those of you who inquired.

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