Last night I talked to a park ranger and the Ursack is approved for the Tetons! Thought some might want to know.
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Ursack S29 Allwhite Approved at Grand Teton National Park
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They must go by approval by the IGBC. Ursack was certified on July 24th 2014
Remember this is only for the 2014 and newer produced bags and retrofitted S29s only. Older green bags and others do not apply.
So I guess Yosemite bears are too smart for an Ursack?
I know it's not a case of bears are bears, but the bears in the Sierra's are like little pets compared to grizzlies.
This 10 years in the making approval process is getting old.
Just hope the S29's will be approved one of these decades.
From ursack's website (http://www.ursack.com/updates/) it does look like they are at least reviewing it again. Who knows what will come from it.
Don't hold your breath..
In part , because those Yosemite bears can open up almost anything..
I've heard stories about them setting up a stove, boiling water, then cooking in a pouch, so that their stolen food was nice and hot
"So I guess Yosemite bears are too smart for an Ursack?"
No. the issue is not the bears… it's the people who are too stupid (or too lazy) for the Ursack… not sayin' that about anyone on this thread, mind you… but you need to realize the rules are not made for you… the NPS makes the rules for the lowest common denominator… the guy who doesn't read the directions for the Ursack and who doesn't give an F about tying the knot correctly and who will be too lazy to keep tying and untying, hanging and unhanging the Ursack every time he wants something out of that sack… I have both a can and a sack and I can tell you it is more trouble to open and close an Ursack than a can… and I would bet my entire wallet that means that there will be a lot of Ursack users leaving their sacks open on the ground more than they would with a can.
"I know it's not a case of bears are bears, but the bears in the Sierra's are like little pets compared to grizzlies."
Brute strength, size, and ferociousness does not = cleverness
No bears are smarter than Yosemite bears about how to get at your food…
billy
I would add that it's not enough to make the Ursack bear proof.
It has also got to be 'fool proof'…
I don't think it will escape the notice of the Yosemite ranger staff that the Ursack is harder to use properly than a canister.
billy
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