Bottle container for hot liquid

There is only ONE bottle I will use for winter or altitude use – Hunersdorff. The overwhelming choice of most greater ranges expeditions. Lots of reasons for this, but related to your question, you can pour boiling water in no problem, and the lid seals reliably and WILL NOT BREAK, even in sub zero temps. Not the easiest to find, I buy mine from Bradley Alpinist:
http://www.bradleyalpinist.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11&products_id=211

They also have an entire blog post on the advantages of the bottles:
http://joealpinist.blogspot.com/2012/04/hunersdorff-water-bottles-pick-for-cold.html

No association with Hunersdorff or Bradley Alpinist other than as a very satisfied customer.

Edited to add disclosure statement.

I've used the standard Nalgene 1L for many years now and never had an issue with leaking. The HDPE bottles weigh less than the Triton bottles, both work just fine.

I'd be pretty careful with the Klean Kanteen, with only single wall construction you have metal sitting at 200+ degrees once you pour in what you've boiled. I'm sure it would be ok once you get the sock or other insulator on it, but until then you'd better handle it carefully.

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.5 liter white Nalgene is what I would use probably.

Unscrew the cup top,boil 24oz of water, as soon as the bottle lip is cool enough to touch,screw it tightly together and drop in in the sock..

As long as you dont leave the cup on while boiling,the seals seem to hold up very well.
The assembly is about 6 oz and you probably wont have to bring another container to boil with..

I recently switched from a Gatoraide bottle to a HDPE Nalegene. It's slightly lighter than the standard hard plastic Nalgene. In fact Nalgene now markets it as their lightweight bottle. It works great for hot water — one of the reasons I chose it.

"Not the easiest to find, I buy mine from Bradley Alpinist: "

40 Below also sells them, that's where I got mine.

I ordered from 40below too. The shipping charges are on the high side for a single item, but work out to be reasonable on a larger order. They have both the Hunersdorf bottles and the neoprene bottle boots that fit over them to help with thermal efficiency.

>40 Below also sells them, that's where I got mine.

I believe that 40 below is the importer for the bottles. I have not purchased direct from them myself. I usually pick up the bottles and other small items from Bradley when I am buying other items.

Bradley Alpinist also carries the 40 below sleeves.

Two good sources for the bottles.

del

i have had the nalgene bottle break on me. not in what you'd expect of blowing off the lid of the cap. but catastrophically fracture.

true story :

i opened the door of my walrus tent (true story from some time ago, eh …) and tossed in my full-of-water nalgene bottle. it hit the sleeping bag and blew up. broke .. big time. no bull. it busted on a sleeping bag. weirdest thing i ever seen. has not happened again, and i have run nalgene's since then with no issue.

another true story :

that thing nalgene does with the strap on the lid… that is hellaciously cool.
a few times the water has been waaayyyy down in hole or it's a long drop off the bank to it, or i am not excited about getting that close to the snow rotted edge to make the dip with just an arm.
i have rigged a pole strap around the lid, and been able to easily extend the range of my dipping.
it beats getting your feets wet too. !
and you can drink with one hand, while the other holds the poles.
the lid strap is just the handiest thing.

may try the hunersdorff this next trip.

cheers,
v.

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I use a Hydroflask bottle. Though it's vacuum insulated, it still radiates heat out from the neck of the bottle (where the inner inner and outer vacuum walls meet. The slow, steady rate of heat loss is perfect to keep my toes warm (but not hot) and provide a nice warm drink first thing in the morning.

It's not as light as the plastic bottles, but also having a nice hot cup of tea or cocoa all day long is well worth the extra ounces for me.

HDPE (high-density Polyethylene) plastic is good to above boiling and below -40. I really like it for lots of things because it is compatible with water, alcohol, and petro-fuels.

Buying a bottle of isopropyl alcohol for $1.29 and tossing the alcohol is going to be cheaper and lighter than any BPing-specific container like nalgene.

I like the little milk bottles McDonald's uses. 8 ounce, reasonably wide mouth, HDPE. Order milk with your next Happy Meal or do a dumpster diving or table-clearing at McDs. Not the perfect form factor for tucking into another container with 100% space efficiency, but I like that they are short, squat, and shaped for a low center of gravity (think: less spilled milk in McDs Playland). I'd use them to ship alcohol in a drop box or use them for boiling water for a hot water bottle without hesitation.

Or there are many other options, for free, at the recycling center in the #2 HDPE bin.

I would use a one liter platypus with a snug cap and dump that in a sock. Far friendlier to snuggle up with.

If I'm using Nalgenes, I like the HDPE too.

I wish I could find the quote of some guy explaining why he thinks putting a water bottle inside your sleeping bag is a terrible idea.

He says basically that you are relying on your dry down bag at 0F to survive and the last place you need to put a liter or two of water is inside this bag as accidents can happen. Water and down don't mix.

I agree. I never put a hot water bottle in my bag with me. The best option is to go overkill with the bag rating so you don't need to use the bottle option.

Distributed in the US by Liberty Mountain. They bring in Esbit too.

"accidents can happen"

Oh c'mon, I haven't had an accident in my sleeping bag yet this year, I think I'm over that pro…..oh! you mean an accident with the water bottle! Yeah, that's what I meant too! Water bottle. Yeah….

Tipi: I'll grant that water and down don't mix well.

OTEPOH (on the ever-present other hand): If your bottle and technique are solid enough. . . . I certainly have gone to bed and had my sleep delayed because there weren't quite enough BTUs inside the sleeping bag. My body had chilled while preparing dinner and puttering around camp. Doing jumping jacks at bedtime didn't seem helpful. A hot water bottle would have helped rewarm me and gotten me to sleep more quickly.

Maybe the middle ground is: if you're going this route, test it in non-critical situations and use reliable equipment and technique.

Once the water bottle was near body temp, I'd place it outside my tarp/tent.

I certainly have gone to bed and had my sleep delayed because there weren't quite enough BTUs inside the sleeping bag. My body had chilled while preparing dinner and puttering around camp.

Alternatively, do not do that. Ensure that you get into your sleeping bag while you are still warm.

–MV

"Hmmm, looks like repurposed bottles made from LDPE plastic not suitable for liquids held persistently above 80C. Seems the only thing special about them is the lid which may or may not address a solution searching for a problem. I suspect any Expedition popularity is the sole US importers hype."

Yes it is a "re purposed" bottle, as are many of the bottles we use for outdoor recreation. Yes it is some form of PE. A few things that are 'special' about them if you will. First, the cap that you noticed – it is PE as well, as unbreakable as the bottle, even in extreme cold. The threading is coarser than a Nalgene, so it does not freeze shut in cold weather (yes I have had this happen with Nalgene bottles.)

The bottle is also different, it is far softer than other bottles, so you can squeaze it and break up ice on the inside walls.

And yes, these really are used by high altitude expeditions, it is not the importers "hype."

I love how some people here so quickly jump on the hype bandwagon when they do not understand a product or feature.

I am sure these online dealers could sell any bottle they wish, they chose this bottle for a reason – it works for their customers. In point of fact Bradley Alpinist also sells the 32oz Nalgen bottles.

The bottle sells for $10.95 for a 1 liter version, the nalgene 32 oz bottles for $9 at Bradley.

"Distributed in the US by Liberty Mountain. They bring in Esbit too."

Thanks for the clarification Ken!

+1 for Hunersdorf (get mine from 40below)

+1 for Vargo Titanium Water Bottle with Titanium Lid

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