Carry sack for Toaks pots

Does there have to be a reason? My Evernew and Snow Peak items have come in both solid bags and mesh sacks through the years.
Cost was probably the biggest factor. Probably got a deal.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's kind of interesting. I've had plenty of mesh and solid sacks, but never a spongy mesh sack. Just wondering if other people have used it in creative ways. 0.6oz for a storage sack sounds boring to me, but if it works as a cozy or something it gets sexier. will try it out as such this weekend in cool/cold weather

I think the reason that mesh is prefered for cookware stuff sacks is that it allows something stored wet (like a pot) to dry. Most nylon stuff sacks these days are moisture barriers to some degree.

I prefer a mesh bag for my mess kit precisely because it allows things to dry out a little. That said, the Toaks bag is too heavy duty. I'm still using a super skimpy, thin, light mesh bag that came with some long forgotten pot from the past.

It looks like you're referring to the spongier mesh sacks, almost like the 3D mesh used for pack shoulder straps – not a plain mesh sack. I have one for a Stoic pot. I think they want you to believe this adds some sort of extra cushion for protection. It doesn't. It just ensnares more dirt and pine needles. Mine doesn't appear it would work well as a cozie, but then again, I haven't tried it.

So, I had similar queries to OP and decided to test out the orange mesh Toaks bag as a cozy in lab conditions.

I have the 1350mL UL Toaks pot and I poured 500ml (16.9 oz) of boiling water in and measured the equilibrium temperature at 92C (198F). I then put the lid on, put it in the mesh bag, tightened the drawstring and stuck in the refrigerator for 20 minutes (fridge temp measured with digital thermometer @ 6 C/ 43F). At the end of 20 minutes the water temperature was 72C (158F).

I'm quite pleased with this. THis is a good approximation to field conditions and For me, this is plenty hot enough to eat. If I'd been able to bring to the boil in the pot, I also probably would have had a higher starting and finishing temperature. Given that the bag weighs only 20g (0.7 oz) and doubles as a stuff sack for the pot, the toaks stuff sack seems to be lighter weight option than the average reflectix or ccf cozy (usually about 45 g/ 1.5 oz).

Question is, how much better is reflectix at maintaining temperature. I'm sure it does a better job, but the question is whether it is worth it for the (admittedly small) increase in weight and need to have an extra carry bag.

I would be super grateful if anybody is willing to carry out a similar test with their reflectix/ ccf cozy. Ball park figures welcome!

So, since my previous post I reran the orange Toaks carry sack cozy test using BPL data here as a comparison:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/antigravitygear_pot_cozy_review.html#.VLMCkCuUdbI

BPL found that an Antigravity Gear reflectix cozy for a 1.3L Ti pot dropped in temperature from 94C (201F) to about 74 Celsius (165F) after twenty minutes when put in the freezer of a domestic refrigerator.

I did the same test above, but this time using the freezer rather than a refrigerator, and found that the temperature using the Toaks orange cozy dropped to about 68 Celsius (154F) after 20mins.

So, the conclusion seems to be that the Toaks cozy isn't quite as insulating as reflectix, but for practical purposes, even in well below freezing conditions, it performs quite well. The finish temperature after 20 minutes (68C/154F) is certainly well above the 55C (132F) temperature that the BPL article author in the link above deems to be his "ideal hot tea temperature".

The other benefits of course are that the Toaks cozy weighs nearly half as much (21g vs 37g), doubles as a carry sack, isn't as fragile and bulky, and could be rinsed and dried more easily in the event of spillage.

Thanks for checking it out, Hugh.

just wondering…might perform really well.

I have to have a sack to carry my pot, and I sometimes carry a reflictix cozy for FB meals…combine the two?

Thanks Kelly and John.

John, re combining reflectix and the toaks sack, I guess the question would be why? If the lab data is correct, then it suggests that having reflectix at all may be overkill as a pot cozy since the orange mesh performs the job quite adequately and at a lower weight.

Of course it would be great to hear people's field reports to see if people's experience matches these lab data.