Aug 12, 2014 at 9:59 pm #1319884Aug 13, 2014 at 8:18 am #2127230
I find this entire article worthless. A review for a custom made knife, not available on the market, that isn't even a complete review. It is made by somebody we will call Mike Martin…?Aug 13, 2014 at 8:45 am #2127240
rogerio britoBPL Member
@kafer4lifeLocale: North Country
Being a bit of a geek when it comes to new gear, i jumped right into this article. Not what i initially expected, definitely not as pissy as Michael L. Nice to see some of the DIY isms Mike went through to reach an end state result of his project. I look forward to a follow on story, thanks to pushing the envelope of a POSITIVE ultralight experience.
rogerAug 13, 2014 at 8:54 am #2127245
Eric LundquistBPL Member
@cobbermanLocale: Northern Colorado
How about a comparative analysis of available titanium fish knives.
Ruta Locura has one available for purchase (link below) and Javan Dempsey (link also below) made a small batch of knives a few years ago.Aug 13, 2014 at 9:10 am #2127251
M GBPL Member
Would also include the Kestrel Knives.Aug 13, 2014 at 9:11 am #2127253
@davecLocale: The West Slope
Kestral knives makes a number of similar blades.
I had one of their ti Ultralighter knives last year. Gorgeous, and a very cool concept, but the limitations in how it cut and the flexible ti had me conclude that it wasn't what I was looking for in a fixed blade.Aug 13, 2014 at 9:36 am #2127260
I guess I'm the "somebody we will call 'Mike Martin'". I made this knife for Ryan a year ago as a gift. I didn't really intend for it to become a BPL MYOG article, nor am I involved in authoring this article beyond answering a few questions from Ryan. I just thought that he might appreciate a knife like this.
This is not a commercial venture for me, and I fully support the various knifemakers who are producing beautiful carbidized and/or titanium knives. The knife that Ryan is writing about here is crude by comparison. It is quite light, and works well enough for its intended uses, but is really just a garage-made utility blade full of tooling marks and cosmetic defects. I'm honored that it's found a spot in his pack.
Still, I'll gladly answer any questions you might have about my knives.
EDIT: To eric's list of makers, I'd like to add danielfairlyknives.com
-MikeAug 13, 2014 at 9:50 am #2127270
It isn't being "pissy" as you so elegantly put it. Nice insults over the internet.
If Mike Martin (yes RJ left it open if this was a real name or just a pseudonym) wrote the article, then it would be a good MYOG article. But I expect more from the site. RJ has started reviews that he promised to update that never materialized. I think a healthy dose of criticism might do him some good. Of course you can ask others how that has worked in the past.Aug 13, 2014 at 1:00 pm #2127340
Peter SBPL Member
I agree with the others. A comparative article on similar knives would be worth a lot more. Probably nothing wrong with the knife, but that's beside the point.
I'll ad what i've said before: Better to have fewer articles, but better articles.
Now i wait to be censored as usually…Aug 13, 2014 at 1:10 pm #2127344
Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
'healthy dose of criticism might do him some good"
I bet it doesn'tAug 13, 2014 at 1:19 pm #2127347
I'm being optimistic.Aug 13, 2014 at 2:06 pm #2127364
M GBPL Member
Once you lower your expectations about what to expect from the weekly content you will be pleasantly surprised when Roger or David or many other excellent contributors publish one of their well researched articles. If you eagerly await for such content every Tuesday evening you will inevitably be disappointed. I do agree this article was a dud ( no offense to Mr. Martin the knife looks cool) but I've stopped getting upset about these.Aug 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm #2127379
icefest From AustraliaMember
Great read, I've been eyeing knifes like this for a while….
The link to the liveblog at the end is broken.Aug 13, 2014 at 3:28 pm #2127386
Jimmy DBPL Member
@byocarbonLocale: El Rio Colorado
Cool technology – "carbidized with tungsten carbide." I love the concept (maybe it is not that new, but this is the first I have heard about it.)
As someone who never does get around to sharpening blades, to have a blade that is self sharpening – even if not perfect – would be great. Nothing like trying to cut moleskin or something like it a few days into a trip with a knife that by that time would be better used as a butter knife.
The DanielFairlyKnives.com 'titanium backpacker' looks cool, though pricey. May have to give it a try.Aug 13, 2014 at 4:15 pm #2127403
I'd say that the carbidized edge is *somewhat* self-sharpening, depending on what material you're cutting. The underlying Ti substrate is very soft by knife standards, so you have to exercise care not to deform the edge. Whittling, chopping, etc. will quickly destroy it. That said, it can cut abrasive materials like cardboard or Spectra line without losing an edge like a regular blade. In fact, you can hone the edge just by slicing up some cardboard.
OTOH, the carbidized edge is not magic. At least on my knives, it will never be sharp enough to shave hairs…
-MikeAug 13, 2014 at 4:50 pm #2127412
Bob MoulderBPL Member
@bobmny10562Locale: Westchester County, NY
from the article: "The size of the handle and blade were chosen to be able to clean a nice trout with decent ergonomics."
I have been using a Leatherman PS4 and, if anything, I'm likely going to downgrade (and lighten up even further) with one of those retractable razor blade things next spring. I'm staying with the PS4 through the upcoming winter season to see if the pliers or file come in handy. But thus far this year I used it one time in the field to cut some cord, and maybe the scissors to trim a fingernail.Aug 13, 2014 at 6:22 pm #2127432
Ken T.BPL Member
"healthy dose of criticism might do him some good"
"I bet it doesn't"
Sadly been down that road already. Every mile of it.
+1 With Peter too, of course.Aug 13, 2014 at 8:28 pm #2127465
Adam KlagsBPL Member
@klagsLocale: Northeast USA
@ Michael L – You know, honestly I'm sick of the complaining from these people like you who are always first to say "this article sucks." I've been a member of this site for a few years now, and you know what? Its a good site. I've trolled some internet sites sometimes for fun. But this isn't a community where we need that whole negative dickhead attitude. We also don't need the "article police" to decide if we like hunting-related posts, or bikepacking posts, or moto-camping posts. Guess what? Some of us like reading all of these for fun anyway. Who cares that there's a partial article here, enjoy what you've got there. At least have some criticism that makes sense. This isn't a scientific journal. You want perfection? It costs hundreds per year. Want to pay that? I don't.
You pay for this site, yeah? So just stop paying if you're not happy. If you're a lifer, are you really gonna complain that you overpaid ONCE for all the amazing information, reviews, MYOG details… you could literally start businesses or build products from the information people share for free on here. You can get here as a noob who has never climbed a peak and learn everything you need to know on here. You can come here with 45 lbs on your back and end with 25 or less. You can learn about how BS backpacker magazine is. You can live vicariously through the trip reports of others that get posted every day. And, you can just use an ad blocker like a smart human to take care of those pesky ads
[Last two paragraphs deleted due to profanity. -DC]
[And a bit more cleaned up by me – RNC]Aug 13, 2014 at 8:34 pm #2127466
Adam KlagsBPL Member
@klagsLocale: Northeast USA
@ Michael L… Also remember that people can see what you post from your forum profile. If you check out yours, its basically half political ranting and being negative or nasty to prove a point. If this weren't a paid site that admins should have booted you by now. All you get from your membership, with an attitude like that, is going to be negativity coming right back your way my man. Everyone is allowed their moments of ranting or going too far. But patterns are patterns. Maybe its time to do some soul searching… if you're so bored of the content here that you just want to fight about politics or troll the site, maybe its time to find another site to join?Aug 13, 2014 at 8:50 pm #2127469
One of the UL issues with fixed blade knives is that they normally require a sheath to carry them safely which obviously adds to the weight. Some people like Dale (if memory serves) have used those plastic report binders to serve the purpose.
How is this knife being carried when not in use?Aug 13, 2014 at 8:58 pm #2127474
Ryan's knife is about 16cm long. Its Kydex sheath weighs about 5 grams.Aug 13, 2014 at 9:01 pm #2127476
"Its Kydex sheath weighs about 5 grams."
Impressive. Do you have any pictures you could share?
Edit: Oops! I see I missed "For a sheath, I used .030" thick Kydex to make a sheath suitable for protecting the knife inside a backpack. Beware, the sheath is very minimal to keep the weight down and may not adequately secure the knife in a pocket, on your belt, or lashed to the outside of your pack."Aug 14, 2014 at 7:22 am #2127548
@davecLocale: The West Slope
Certain what I might call off topic diversions in editorial threads are fine, as is disagreement with them, but please keep it within forum guidelines concerning profanity and respecting others.Aug 14, 2014 at 7:50 am #2127563
I do agree with Ryan's comments that a knife often times reflects the personality of the owner. I carry the SAK classic or Leatherman PS4 99% of the time but I do appreciate the skill and craft required to build a knife and am in the market for something that's still UL but a bit more substantial.
Since there seems to be a healthy MYOG community here, a future article where someone makes a MYOG backpacking knife, from stock or file, to forge, to finish would be interesting. I follow a few knife makers on YouTube and a local guy. I think the topic would be interesting to a number of members here, even if they have no interest in building one for themselves. To keep things UL, something similar to the Izula or Necker-Becker would probably be appropriate.Aug 14, 2014 at 8:07 am #2127566
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
Titanium won't hold an edge?
Must be some reason for carbidizing it
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