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  • #1319695
    Eli Palmer
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    @wonkbro

    Locale: Kamuela, Hawaii

    I'm thinking of getting a Chrome Dome umbrella for my PCT hike next year. I was wondering if anyone has found a simple way to attach it to my pack. I have a Unaweep pack , so the frame is on the outside, and I was thinking of rigging something to that.

    I found these on Amazon, but I am unsure:

    http://www.amazon.com/Swing-Trek-Umbrellas-Umbrella-Holder/dp/B001OPKISE/ref=cts_ap_1_fbt

    Also, there is this umbrella, which is supposed to be able to attach to a pack. I think it weighs like 15oz though, compared to the Chrome Dome + Umbrella holder (10oz):

    http://www.mpgear.com/700070/swing-trek-umbrellas-swing-handsfree-umbrella-silvr?SSAID=385201

    If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. Thanks!

    #2125717
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington
    #2125740
    Rob P
    BPL Member

    @rpjr

    There is a woman named Erin Saver (her trail name is "Wired") who has thru hiked the AT this year with a Chrome dome that she attaches to her pack while simultaneously using trekking poles. I think there is a post somewhere on her website where she discusses how she attaches it to her pack.

    I think the website is walkingwithwired.com

    #2125743
    Steven Paris
    BPL Member

    @saparisor

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Wired has a link to where she got her "system" for attaching a Chrome Dome, here:

    http://ramblinghemlock.blogspot.com/2014/03/umbrella-rigging.html

    #2125763
    Marko Botsaris
    BPL Member

    @millonas

    Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA

    Yeah, I went through all of these ideas a few months back. IMO overkill and not even as good as the simple solution. If you tie a 3-4 inch diameter bubgee loop through the lift strap at the top back of the pack, and hook a tiny carabiner though the hand strap on the end of the umbrella you are done – and IMHO from testing it is the best, most stable, most adaptable solution by far, in spite of also being by far the simplest and lightest. This is basically what one guy did in one of the posted youtube vids on another umbrella thread several months back. When you see it and try it the other methods become superfluous.

    You stick your closed umbrella (while walking)up through the lift-strap bungie loop until you can open it above the loop. After it is opened and resting on your pack reach/pull down and attach the carabiner at the end of the umbrella wrist strap to your hip belt somewhere. As Emeril Lagasse would say, BAM!

    You can then also make any minor adjustment to its position you like. Choose which side of your head, and same side or cross-side for the belt attachment, as conditions warrant and/or according to personal preference. The strap on the umbrella is already springy, but you can adjust to you pack/body size, for instance, by changing the size of the lift strap loop bungee, and/or attaching another loop(s) to the belt (rather then attaching the carabiner directly to one of the belt straps) if you need more length to stretch the distance or want less tension, etc.

    The back bottom of the umbrella rests on your pack. The coverage is low and very stable in moderate wind, just what you need for rain and sun coverage. Might not work as easily for a day pack, but probably something could be worked out to keep it from sitting right on your head. I suppose there may be a few packs/load where this doesn't work, but it works with all my packs of different sizes ranging from lightweight down to SUL.

    On my set up the Birdypal (same as chrome dome but without logo) 7.8 oz, plus bungee loop and micro carabiner still less than 8 oz.

    #2125813
    D M
    BPL Member

    @farwalker

    Locale: What, ME worry?

    For use when folded for carrying and when in use , two on the pack strap.

    #2125816
    Edward Jursek
    BPL Member

    @nedjursekgmail-com

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Look up BPL Member Michael Gillenwater (www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/…/profile.html?u=mwgillenwater) He has a neat way of attaching a Golite umbrella to a pack. He used it on our last trip and it worked great.

    #2125830
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    My hiking shirt has large cargo, chest pockets. I put my Chrome Dome handle in the pocket. And the shirt has epaulets on the shoulders. I button that over the middle of the umbrella shaft. Between doing that on my right side or my left side, it handles most any angle of mid-day sun.

    #2125851
    Marko Botsaris
    BPL Member

    @millonas

    Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA

    " And the shirt has epaulets on the shoulders. "

    While I know there must have been some use for those vestigial things (beyond hanging military decorations and rank), I think that is the only actual explanation of a use I have ever heard. Bravo. Glad you didn't cut them off to save weight.

    FWIW, I have never had much luck attaching an umbrella to a shoulder strap, as this is not a very stable part of the pack, and worse, the attachment point are far too close together so the counter-torque is very weak. So if there is any wind, and even from bumping around walking the umbrella wobbles. If you hook it the way I described above is is locked in place under tension. It probably would stay in place under very high winds – the main danger being crumpling the umbrella under the force, or else lifting you off the ground like Mary Poppins.

    Any way, try'em both and see what you like best.

    #2126093
    Kevin Babione
    BPL Member

    @kbabione

    Locale: Pennsylvania

    I put a 2-3" loop on my haul loop and put the umbrella handle through that. It seems to offset it enough that it lays against my neck without bothering me. I then have a small elastic bungee on the end of the handle through which goes my pack belt to hold everything in place.

    It seems to work well on trips where I'm fairly certain I'll see rain. If I'm going out with a chance of rain I leave the umbrella home.

    #2126095
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    Maybe an umbrella is designed to be held in your hands, but if you want it attached to your pack, a different shape would be better.

    Like two poles straight up, then bent sideways going forward horizontally, then around and connected together in front of you. So, more of a rectangular shape of waterproof fabric.

    crude picture:

    umbrella

    #2126096
    Ken Thompson
    BPL Member

    @here

    Locale: Right there

    Jerry. There was some guy in SoCal who was trying to sell something like that years ago.

    #2126100
    Randy Martin
    BPL Member

    @randalmartin

    Locale: Colorado

    Edit. Removed for duplication.

    #2126120
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    >"While I know there must have been some use for those vestigial things (beyond hanging military decorations and rank), I think that is the only actual explanation of a use I have ever heard."

    Although they now hold rank insignia of military personnel, Boy Scouts and airline pilots, I believe the shoulder straps were first put on military shirts and jackets to secure the diagonal strap that supported one's scabbard, holster, or ammunition pouch.

    In my life outside of backpacking, I find I'm wearing shoulder straps and epaulettes a few times a year.KlingonCzarist Officer

    #2126121
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    Yes, the namesake of Science Officer "Spork" (my son) on his chest is a UL titanium one.

    #2126122
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    You guys need a LW version of a Nubrella :
    nubrella

    http://nubrella.com/what-is-nubrella/

    #2126129
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    You guys are going at this all wrong. You want to attach the umbrella to your head. Use a Brockabrella. Google it.

    The St. Louis baseball player Lou Brock had his name on it.

    –B.G.–

    #2126261
    Eli Palmer
    Member

    @wonkbro

    Locale: Kamuela, Hawaii

    I would totally get a "Brockbrella" if they designed them better (seems more like a gag item from what I can tell). Maybe put some overlapping vents so gusts of wind could escape through the bottom of the canopy. Anyone have a link for a well made one by any chance?

    Got a good amount of links discussing how to attach the umbrella, appreciate it. Like someone else said, umbrellas are designed to be held in the hand. Would be cool to see one designed to be integrated with a pack.

    #2126297
    Marko Botsaris
    BPL Member

    @millonas

    Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA

    I have to say, there is something about the newbrella that, if I saw the guy in the picture using one on a rainy day, I would probably be hoping for a bus to drive by and splash about 5 gallons of water on him from below.

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