Oct 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm #1308394
I have recently developed a stomach problem that prevents me from eating anything fatty or acidic so the normal hiking foods of dried beef/pork products, cheeses, nuts, nut butters, chocolate, etc.. are completely off the table for me (Which really sucks). I recently hiked in Glacier national park for 4 days covering 34 miles and probably only consumed 1200-1500 calories a day because the foods I brought disgusted me so much I just couldn't eat it which left me very weak and exhausted. I really need to find food options that are going to meet the caloric requirements of hiking, taste good and don't leave me in severe pain for 4-5 hours. I can eat things like chicken or turkey as they are low fat but since that will make up all my dinners I didn't want to eat it for lunch as well. Does anyone have vegetarian or vegan lunch ideas that would be light and fast and don't require any sort of cooking but are calorie dense?Oct 5, 2013 at 7:32 pm #2031130
@hknewmanLocale: Western US
Fresh bread comes to mind on day 1. Maybe store some cinnamon or very blueberry bagels at the top of your pack so they are warm for lunch?Oct 5, 2013 at 8:10 pm #2031136
Vegan bars could take up some of the slack. Vega makes some tasty ones.Oct 5, 2013 at 8:22 pm #2031142
@hknewmanLocale: Western US
Not being able to spread olive oil or peanut butter on bread is kind of rough, … so maybe cookies or sweet/sweetish breads that can be dipped in lukewarm tea (or drink mix). Jelly or jam spread OK?Oct 5, 2013 at 8:26 pm #2031144
The problem with those bars as with most vegan/vegetarian bars/foods they rely heavily on nuts and nut butters for protein, neither of which I can eat as said in my original post. Same goes for chocolate I can't eat it at all without being in severe pain for 4-5hrs. The pain these foods cause me isn't a little bit of pain or discomfort I'm talking chest pain like your having a heart attack pain. I've found that I can eat turkey jerky but as I am sure most people have found out turkey jerky isn't very tasty.Oct 5, 2013 at 8:29 pm #2031146
Jellies and jams are fine and I can eat a moderate amount of fatty foods maybe 1 or 2 ounces a day or so but I can't drink tea unless its herbal because black/green tea is too acidic. I find this whole situation incredibly frustrating but there is no cure or anything like that for it I am just stuck eating a very restricted diet for the rest of my life but I don't want it to prevent me from doing the things I love. I still run marathons, hike and do all the things I like to do I just have to get very creative with the food options and I haven't come up with anything that good on the trail yet. I tried ordering some vegan dehydrated meals for my Glacier hike last month and I couldn't stomach most of them.Oct 5, 2013 at 8:34 pm #2031147
@bolsterLocale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
I don't do well with high-density fats, either. I used to be much less tolerant, but these sorts of health things often come and go, and it's possible that in a few months you'll be doing better. It's hard to take that view when you're in the middle of a health crisis, but many of these issues get better with time, or your physicians figure something out.
Regards modest fat intake, I make hybrid gorp out of breakfast cereals and dried fruit. Personally I like Quaker Oatmeal Squares as the base cereal. Can you eat dried salted soy nuts to get some protein? If so, add those for some "salty" in your non-gorp.
Like you, I can only handle so much leaf tea. It can be pretty rough on an acid-intolerant system. However the powdered iced tea (which tastes sorta like sweet bread) doesn't seem very acidic.Oct 5, 2013 at 8:38 pm #2031148
–B.G.–Oct 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm #2031153
I wish this was only a temporary thing but I've seen two specialists and it's something that I will be living with. Soy nuts are a great idea.Powdered ice tea would probably be fine as its 99% fake but they usually are too sweet for me. Cereal based GORP sounds like a great idea, same goes for the Logan bread. I read a recipe on Sectionhiker.com for it but I have to test it out at home first because there appears to be 1 cup of vegetable oil in there and that stuff wreaks havoc on my stomach, unless someone has a recipe with less oil. Please keep the ideas coming. I definitely need/appreciate all the ideas.Oct 5, 2013 at 9:17 pm #2031156
"unless someone has a recipe with less oil"
That's why I posted the recipe.
–B.G.–Oct 5, 2013 at 9:22 pm #2031157
Unless I'm missing something I don't see a recipe or a hyperlink to a recipe anywhere.Oct 5, 2013 at 9:32 pm #2031160
You might try applesauce to replace a fair amount of the oil. We do that with a variety of different breads. Haven't tried it with Logan bread but now I will. How about some kind of bean spread and tortillas? Or apple butter? Hummus?Oct 5, 2013 at 9:34 pm #2031161
"Unless I'm missing something I don't see a recipe or a hyperlink to a recipe anywhere."
Do a BPL search for "Logan" and see what's there.
I get asked this about once per year here.
–B.G.–Oct 6, 2013 at 5:21 am #2031180
Bill SegravesBPL Member
I recommend testing the soy nuts out in advance. I don't know of any food that's tougher on stomachs, at least among people I know.
Bill S.Oct 6, 2013 at 5:43 am #2031183
David NollBPL Member
@dpnollLocale: Maroon Bells
This article by Mike Clelland is really good. Just don't take his advise on tp.
ww.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/quick_healthy_meals_with_an_ultralight_cook_kit#.UlFaZVN21dwOct 6, 2013 at 7:22 am #2031193
Thanks Bob I found it. I'll give it a go this week if I have time. That article looks interesting and the more people link to articles on BPL it makes me realize I need to take the plunge and just buy a subscription. I had a subscription to Backpacker magazine and as most of you note on here its a complete joke of a magazine now. BPL is a much better resource. Please keep the recipe and food ideas coming. I truly appreciate it.Oct 6, 2013 at 8:26 am #2031201
"That article looks interesting and the more people link to articles on BPL it makes me realize I need to take the plunge and just buy a subscription."
I have no idea what you mean. What article?
–B.G.–Oct 6, 2013 at 8:37 am #2031208
The one that David linked to. I have all the ingredients for your Logan bread recipe and plan on making it later today. ThanksOct 6, 2013 at 8:43 am #2031210
I would hope that you can find one oil that is acceptable in your diet. How do you feel about olive oil? Also, as others have pointed out, some recipes use either applesauce or pureed banana to substitute for part of the oil. Most recipes like this are simply the starting point, and they must be adapted to your own diet.
Also, since the ingredients are mostly carbohydrates, you do not get the dense calorie packing as compared to fats.
–B.G.–Oct 6, 2013 at 9:16 am #2031226
Ken T.BPL Member
I have no idea what you mean. What article?
Try the Search BPL box.Oct 6, 2013 at 9:59 am #2031235
Valerie EBPL Member
@wildtownerLocale: Grand Canyon State
Wow – this is a tough one, because most prepared foods rely on fats and acids (and sugar) for calories/flavor…
How about making a little quinoa salad for lunch, using either instant quinoa, or regular quinoa that you pre-cook and dehydrate at home? At breakfast, combine some quinoa, some herbs/spices, and some dehydrated veggies and/or fruits in a little ziplock screw-top container. Just before lunchtime, add water, and let the whole thing rehydrate. Protein and vitamins!
Also, consider making your own turkey or chicken jerky. If you pre-freeze the meat and slice it as thin as you can, it will melt in your mouth! You can also make custom flavors like bourbon maple cayenne, or jalapeno teriyaki, or whatever your imagination leads you to…Oct 6, 2013 at 10:26 am #2031241
Yeah its a tough one and thats why I am reaching out to all the experienced folks here. Quinoa sounds great I usually eat a mixture of quinoa, oats, and flax seed for breakfast. I am making some nut free larabars using seeds, logan bread and a few other things that will hopefully work. I really need to buy a dehydrator to make my own meals/jerky.
I wish there was an oil that I could eat, but alas I can not. If it's say pasta tossed very lightly in olive oil or a small pad of butter I am fine but anything that has more than an ounce or two wreaks havoc on my stomach and gi tract and causes me to be in severe pain.Oct 6, 2013 at 4:56 pm #2031328
Bob, I made your Logan bread recipe and it's in the oven, I am also making a brick bar recipe from Ken Larson that I found on here. both look great. I am going to try and make a chia seed/medjool date bar later. I read that Chia is a complete protein so I am hoping it will work well.Oct 6, 2013 at 5:07 pm #2031332
Have a look at wheatberries as well. Decent protein source, good nutrition profile. I make veggie chili with them, very tasty.
Can you eat avocados? If so, could be a source of good fat.Oct 6, 2013 at 5:26 pm #2031336
I can eat a small amount of avocado, again a few ounces then if I eat more than that I am in pain. Wheat berries are great my wife makes all kinds of meals with them.
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