I've played around a making a side burner stove for my Heineken pot (http://zenstoves.net/SimplifiedZenStove.htm) but am not impressed with the performance.
So for those using a 24 oz Heineken pot, what stove do you use?
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I've played around a making a side burner stove for my Heineken pot (http://zenstoves.net/SimplifiedZenStove.htm) but am not impressed with the performance.
So for those using a 24 oz Heineken pot, what stove do you use?
Hello,
I use a MiniBullDesign Ssbit stove. But then again all I need it for is boiling water.
Randy
>I’ve played around a making a side burner stove…
The problem with side-burners is that most of their heat spreads outward. Not a problem with a 6″ diameter pot (e.g., Mirro Grease Pot from WalMart) but they aren’t very effective with narrow pots. A small-diameter center-burning stove such as Sgt. Rock’s ION stove kit (1.2 oz complete) or, for fast heating, a Cobra stove made from Red Bull cans or Scott’s Mini Stove will be more effective. I also use a pot stand even if the stove can support the pot (e.g., SuperCat) so that the entire bottom of the pot is exposed to the flame. This stand, for instance, is easily made from a wire clothes hanger; mine weighs 0.7 oz.
Tealight!
Most everything else has too wide of a flame pattern to be very efficient on the narrow beer can. The tealight focuses all of the flame right on the bottom of the can. It does take a little longer to boil water though. Mine will boil 16 oz of water in about 10 minutes in my Fosters pot.
Adam
How about the MiniBull NION #2? Designed perfectly for the Heineken pot.
Adam, I just tried the Tealight this morning with a Z-Stand and got about the same results with my Heineken pot and 5/8 oz of SLX.
John, what pot stand do you use with the Nion #2. And which of the two levels (high or low) do you use?
Do you have any fuel usage #s for the Nion #2?
Check out this link over at Whiteblaze.
http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22425
I made three of these. Boil two cups of water in less than 5 minutes. I have used it on two trips and it has performed great.
Dale, neat idea. What did you end up making the burner out of?
Please note: This stove was not my idea. As you can see in the threads Zelph developed this design. He has all of the instructions listed there. I made one of mine form a printers ink can, one form a large Kiwi shoe polish can and one from canned herring can. The inner band was roof flashingwith fiberglass wicks. Very easy to make. I have numerous alcohol stoves, both homemade and commercial. This works with Heiney pots and Fosters cans best IMO (boiling water only). On my two trips that I used it I cooked for two with it.
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Steve…
Check out the video on U-Tube by Tinny. Shows it in action, much better than I could describe.

Looking at Tinny's videos, his Hiny Can pot seems to have the hardware cloth pot rack attached, maybe just by friction, I don't know.
At any rate, the height of the pot is the key. Flames turn upward, and the hottest part of the flame is just inside the tip of the flame. Adjust your pot rack height accordingly.
My Hiny Can pot works well on several of my stoves, both side and top jet models.
I have Tinny's Heinekin pot, and I made a hardware cloth stand for it like his. It doesn't attach; it just sits snugly. The weight of the water in the pot holds the pot on the stand. The stand, the Essbit stove, and a bottle of fuel all fit inside the pot. Very cooly-neato!
Dale, where did you get the fiberglass wick? I know MiniBull Designs sells them, but were you able to find any locally?
Here's my beercan stove… which I'm sure a lot of you have already seen. 50 grams for pot, stand, esbit holder, windscreen, pot grabber and rigid lid with "handle" (not a piece of tin foil).
David, I actually have been to your website. Borrowed your windscreen design from your first stove for my tealight version :)
Pretty neat setup.
Steve, for the wicks I actually used three differeent materials. The fiberglass wick version was fiberglass repair material from an auto parts store folded four times to get the right thickness. I also made one version with a wick material called Coolteck exhaust tape that I got from a local auto performance shop (I like the results with this the best) and one version from black plumbers cloth from Lowe's.
Dale, thanks for the feedback on the Cooltek exhaust rap. I'll call around and see if any shops carry it.
I did find a tin for the stove. It is shallow, 1/2" high, so it might not be tall enough. Guess I could find a large shoe polish can and use that.
Did you use JB Weld to secure the wick or a staple like Zelph's current version?
I used JB Weld, about four dabs equally space around bottom of wick. The Cooltek Exhaust Wrap can be ordered from the web but it only comes in large expensive rolls. I just called around to some mufflers & exhaust shops until I found one that uses the stuff. They just gave me a 6' piece (4" wide) which was more than enough. I'll try and take some photos tonight and post. As I said earlier all I did was follow Zelph's instructions.
Looking forward to the pictures :)
Photos of the shoe polish can version and the printers ink can version.


You can install 4 inserts between the outer row of fiberglass and the wall of the container being used for the stove. I used .005 stainless steel. They are 1 1/4 inches wide X 1 inch high. Place them equidistant around the circumfrence of the stove. The inserts will allow for the stove to be used for Heineken pots and a variety of other pots. Regular pots will sit on the raised inserts. Pour in the fuel, light, and place pot onto stove. No priming pan is necessary. I recently watched Tinny prime one of his stoves, looked like he used at least 1/6 ounce(5ml)of fuel.
The stove goes beyond the norm when it comes to flames going up the side of the pot. ALL the flames are on the side of the pot when in operation. NO flames touch the bottom. In all of the alcohol stove world you hear everyone saying the flames should'nt go up around the side of your pot.
Another interesting thing about the "Ring Of Fire" is that you can use Iso90 rubbing alcohol for fuel and no soot will form on the sides of the Heiny pot.
Dale, nice craftsmanship on your stove.
Zelph
Thanks Zelph, and thanks for the great stove design. It's the first stove that I have been happy using with beer can pots.
Tealight stove
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