May 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm #1303039May 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm #1987162
Chris WBPL Member
They've been working on it for at least a year. Not available for purchase as of yet.May 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm #1987181
Thanks Chris. I had heard rumours but this was the first time I had seen a pic.May 17, 2013 at 9:27 pm #1987218
@glacierramblerLocale: NW Montana
They posted a video on their Facebook page a little while back of the AMW Ski Classic, and there was one a few of the shots. Presumably someone like Luc Mehl had a prototype for testing.May 18, 2013 at 1:04 pm #1987341
I just got back from Trail Days and they had a two-person mid and a 4-person mid set up. They look awesome, I didn't get any specs on dimensions, but I believe they said the two-person came in at just over a pound.May 24, 2013 at 3:25 pm #1989488
Mike St.Pierre (HMG)BPL Member
HMG is pleased to announce that after more than a year of design and testing the UltaMids ARE available now in 2-man and 4-man sizes. These cuben fiber mids are not yet on our site but can be ordered by emailing us directly at email@example.com or calling us at 1-800-464-9208. Here are the specs:
2-Man UltaMid, $650
1.04lbs / 16.6oz
83"W x 107"L x 64"H
4-Man UltaMid, $800
1.3llbs / 20.8oz
111"W x 111"L x 75"H
The UltaMids are available with an optional bug net skirt for an additional $50.
Each of the UltaMids is constructed of single wall Cuben Fiber and has been tested and proven for four-season use.May 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm #1989489
What thickness cuben fiber are you using?
Also, since this is nearly 2' wider than a Duomid (unless my math is bad), can I assume this would be more difficult to set up in an inverted V pole setup than the Duomid?
One more question, I assume this is bonded-no seam sealing necessary?May 24, 2013 at 3:53 pm #1989492
Edward JursekBPL Member
@nedjursekgmail-comLocale: Pacific Northwest
They managed to bring their Mid in at only 2 ounces heavier and $235 more then the MLD DuoMid! Or the Locus Gear Khufu, to which it bears an eerie resemblance, if only I could convert Yen to Dollars in my head.May 24, 2013 at 4:14 pm #1989495
Well the 2 person version is quite large! What is the difference in cuben weight?May 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm #1989516
Ryan SmithBPL Member
Yowza! $650 is a lot of dough.
RyanMay 24, 2013 at 5:31 pm #1989518
Rex SandersBPL Member
@rexLocale: Central California Coast
Google is your friend:
May 24, 2013 at 5:41 pm #1989519
Ken T.BPL Member
Lets see some pictures with people and gear actually using them.
Need a sense of scale.May 24, 2013 at 5:54 pm #1989520
Doug, I think the 64" height might make it even harder to use the inverted v pole set up as the Duomid height is 54"May 24, 2013 at 5:57 pm #1989521
"I think the 64" height might make it even harder to use the inverted v pole set up as the Duomid height is 54""
Richard, you're right, I missed that. This new mid is pretty darned big, and yet only 2 oz. heavier than a cuben Duomid. I assume they're using pretty lightweight cuben. Will be nice when Mike puts it up on the HMG site with a bit more info.May 24, 2013 at 9:14 pm #1989565
It seems to me you are also going to need a big pole extender at that height. Probably best to lash two poles together or use a proper tent pole.May 25, 2013 at 1:36 am #1989592
@morte66Locale: Surrey flatlands, England
According to my trigonometry (abandon all hope ye who enter here): on the 2p, if you set the poles about 5 inches in from the base of the walls on the shorter span, they need to be about 73 inches long.
75 inches if they're an inch from the fabric base to get more floor space. That's assuming the panel tie outs lift the fabric off despite the curve — I'm not sure if putting that much tension on panel centres (instead of reinforced seams) is a good idea.May 25, 2013 at 4:45 am #1989600
@ctufankjianLocale: New Hampshire
Right on Mike, I've been waiting for this to happen!May 28, 2013 at 8:50 am #1990380
Well, the trigger has been pulled on a 2 man UltaMid. I'll report back after I get my hands on it.May 28, 2013 at 9:34 am #1990400
Since HMG uses CF8 Cuben on all other tent walls, I expect that is what this tent will use. CF8 is 0.74 ozyd.
DerrickMay 28, 2013 at 10:03 am #1990411
According to an email I got from Mike this morning it is .78 oz/sq/yd material and a 1.1oz/sq/yd material for all the reinforcements.May 28, 2013 at 10:29 am #1990420
Is HMG including a trekking pole extender, selling a custom center pole or recommending tying 2 poles together?
The Ultamid 2 tent slots nicely in with existing options size-wise:
HMG Ultamid 2 107 x 83 x 64H
MLD Duomid 95 x 60 x 54H
MLD Supermid 107 x 107 x 69H
HMG Ultamid 4 111 x 111 x 75H
Its pricey, but I expect the cuben tent market has tolerance for it!
DerrickMay 28, 2013 at 11:03 am #1990430
I actually didn't even ask about it as I have a Luxurylite hiking staff that I use that will work perfect with it. I'll check with Mike at HMG to see what they are recommending.May 28, 2013 at 12:12 pm #1990449
Mike St.Pierre (HMG)BPL Member
Here's a little more information on our new UltaMid that might help in comparisons to mids from other manufacturers:
-The HMG UltaMid is constructed using CT2E.08 Cuben Fiber which weighs 0.78oz per square yard.
-The HMG UltaMid has fully bonded seams. Its waterproof right out of the box — no seam sealing necessary.
-The HMG UltaMid includes all guy lines needed for set up (stakes are not included).
-The HMG UltaMid features a peak cone reinforced with a plastic stiffener for maximum durability and to prevent deformation when setting up using irregularly shaped trekking poles, sticks or even skis.
Here's a pic of the UltaMid in the field:May 28, 2013 at 12:41 pm #1990458
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
It's not on your websiteJun 4, 2013 at 2:09 pm #1993303
After extensive Q&A with Mike of HMG I pulled the trigger and ordered an Ultamid 4 today.
Will report with images once I get it.
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