Tehipite Valley

Tehipite Valley is a excellent place to explore and is remote for sure. I have been there a few times over the years and look forward to going back in the future. I would of like to go this weekend but I guessed I missed out.

Jay,

we had two additional seats in the minivan. So may be next time we don't just pick up James and Chris after work at the BART in Dublin …

Tehipite is indeed an excellent place to explore. I wish we would have had more time there to see Silver Spray Falls, Painted Rock and Blue Canyon. And extra time for fishing would have been nice too …

But even without extra exploring our trip was great. Spending the weekend with like-minded backpackers does that already — being out in the Sierra makes it a sure bet — seeing Tehipite Valley for the first time was the icing on the cake for me.

Manfred

Hey Jay, sorry, I should have realized that you would be interested in this trip. My bad on that one. Hopefully we can get together for the next one.

No worries maybe next time. Maybe we could get everybody's email addresses together and if any body has a idea of a backpacking trip you could put it out there and then see who might have interest and then respond back. I took my boy up North to the Middle Eel Wilderness this weekend to Yolla Bolly Lake but I would of liked Tehipite valley much more. Tehipite Valley is awesome!! My email address is: jwilkerson@redcloudinc.com…I might be going to the Trinity Alps on May 10-12 to do the Four Lakes Loop with Ken Thompson and Kat if anybody has interest.

Thanks,
Jay

Many thanks Andrew for posting photos from your Tehipite Valley trip. I have been wanting to head out there for a while but this is the closest I've gotten:

Tehipite Dome from Windy Ridge.

Andy.

Just sent you an e-mail Jay.

Andy, thanks for the reminder. I had totally forgotten about the view down the Middle Fork from Windy Ridge. Your pic takes me back to being there. I didn't take the time to go out to Windy Point when I was there… will have to correct that oversight some day… :)

Andrew,

the view from Windy Ridge was fantastic when we did the SHR last September. Do I hear you want to do it again? …

Manfred

That rifle you found might be from the Civil War era. It is a Spencer Repeating Rifle from the 1860s. If you saw "Unforgiven" Eastwood used a Spencer in that movie. Because it was one of the first repeaters that actually worked it was a huge hit with Union soldiers during Civil War. I believe the Cavalry that stopped the Confederates on the first day of Gettysburg used Spencers but I could be wrong.

The gun you found could have been carried by a soldier. But about 1870 or so the Army began getting rid of them. A lot were sold as surplus so its quit likely your find belong to a prospector or hunter. I read somewhere that it was a favorite with older trappers and mountain men because it had a more powerful cartridge then the early Winchester rifles.

This is what is used to look like. Did you ask any rangers about it? They might be interested to know it was there.

Luke,

Thanks for that information. My sons were trying to figure out what it was from this photo that Andrew took of me with the rifle. They think that is the coolest thing.

Manfred

Awesome trip with a great group of friends. Thank you Andrew for posting the report and thank you Manfred for driving.

A nice break Saturday morning

Andrew checking the map and enjoying a snickers.

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Johnson's Cow Camp.

Tehipite Valley

Tehipite Dome and the Middle Fork of the Kings River

Manfred relaxing in camp

James and Chris making a dinner fire.

Glad to help Manfred, in the new pictures that is definitely a Spencer. Your right hand is holding the magazine. The rounds would have fit in there in a removable tube that held seven rounds. To fire it you would have pushed the trigger guard down and forward, just like the Winchester rifles in John Wayne movies. Then you would cock the hammer with your thumb and you were ready to fire. For the time it was a very fast shooting rifle.

Your specimen looks like it has longer a barrel so it probably did not belong to a Cavalry trooper. It could be the Infantry version or it could be the sporting version which was sold in small numbers to hunters. It would be interesting to see if the US Army was up in that area and if so why they were dropping rifles. Maybe from the Indian Wars? Or maybe someone shot at the wrong grizzly. As collectors say "If only this gun could talk!"

Okay I guess you figured out by now I'm a bit of a history geek. Nice pictures and trip report by the way.

A few more pics:

James at one of the first stream crossings.

The bear tracks.

Johnson's Cow Camp. David going in for a closer view.

Spectacular viewpoint just before heading down into the valley.

It was hard to leave this spot.

Tehipite Dome and the Middle Fork Kings River just a short walk away from camp.

James taking an alternate approach to stream crossings. This time he winds up and spins across like the Tazmanian Devil.

Typical trail conditions for much of the route.

Awesomely beautiful, hard to believe there is so little snow. Looking forward to hiking with some of you next week.

Chris, I like your photo of the dome with the Kings in the foreground.

That valley is a weird and cool place.

Was there evidence of anyone else being in there this year or were you guys first?

Any geologist types care to explain how those domes form?

David, the domes like Tehipite are the same as the ones in Yosemite and elsewhere in the Sierra Nevada. Half Dome was once a full dome, but then the glacier sheared off half of it.

Basically, there were big bubbles of molten granite deep within the earth, and they slowly rose to toward the surface about 90-100 million years ago. As they neared the surface, they started cooling off from the outside inward. As a result, the cooled dome tends to be round and peels off in layers (exfoliation).

–B.G.–

David,

There were no visible signs of anyone going to Tehipite Valley before us. The ranger also said we were the first this year to get a permit.

Manfred

"There were no visible signs of anyone going to Tehipite Valley before us."

Bears are people, too.

–B.G.–

Nice trip guys, wish I could have went with you.

The bear prints just prove my point about bears in Ca. they don't hibernate, they're always looking for food, and we just make it easy for them in the winter, we bring it right to thier front porch. LOL Just kidding about the food, but I've seen many bears and bear tracks in the deep of winter.

That place looks huge!

Has anyone climbed Tehipite Dome? There is supposed to be a fairly easy class 2/3 route on the back side. I am really tempted to do that some day. The only thing holding me back is acrophobia.

Dome

Blue Canyon

Hi, thanks for the great trip report. I've been down to "old Tehip" (as my dad called it when he first took me there) several times. It's my all-time favorite place to go.

I was wondering if there was any significant damage still visible from a fire there back in 2008?

FYI the last time we went, we met rangers who said they were harassed by bears every night they were camped there. They joked (I think) that it was the place where Yosemite sends its trouble bears into exile by helicopter. But we stayed 3 nights and only ever saw one set of tracks. Saw several rattlesnakes, though. And trout, oh yes.

Frank, I don't remember seeing any fire damage, but we didn't go very far past the switchbacks down into the canyon. It was very overgrown there, moreso than usual for that elevation, so it might have burned 5-10 years ago.