Apr 20, 2013 at 8:49 pm #1301985
my hiking partner invited me to go on a day hike with a local group and i agreed to go now i need advice on what to take for essintials
i have a camelback hawg daypack that holds 100 oz of water and has storage around the outside of the bladder for a little bit of gear
question is what do i need to take ?? i don t do much dayhiking and im going into an area im not familiar with but its a popular trail that gets frequent use
and i will be there with 7-8 other people so i won t be alone but i have no idea what to take other than a snake bite kit and my patagonia houdini
anyone have suggestions on what to tale with me ?? what does a good day hiking pack consist of ??
thanks for the info guys
kevinApr 20, 2013 at 10:42 pm #1978906
First aid kit
Flashlight or headlamp
Water purification: filter or chemicals
Fire starters: matches, lighter, firesteel, tinder (pick a couple)
Emergency shelter: poncho, bivy, space blanket (pick one)
Repair kit: duct tape, sewing kit, spare line
Sit padApr 20, 2013 at 10:51 pm #1978908
@nsherry61Locale: Mid-Willamette Valley
Food, including fun food
Rain protection of some kind if there is a chance of it.
Warm coat for stops, if cold is likely
Navigation, map and compas
Water/treatment depending on availability on the trail.
hat/sunscreen (put on, not carried)
Trekking poles if you use them
Maybe also some fun stuff like camera, smart phone with bird or wildflower apps., gps, binocular or monocular, some archaic trinket or gear to be a conversation piece with the other people or whatever.Apr 20, 2013 at 11:08 pm #1978911
Basically take your usual crap without a sleeping bag or shelter. Cooking? Pack accordingly.Apr 20, 2013 at 11:15 pm #1978913
A ~450ml mug with an Esbit wing stove, some foil for a windscreen and lid, and a folding spoon/spork make a great day hike kitchen.Apr 20, 2013 at 11:32 pm #1978917
@millonasLocale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Geez Dale, you forgot the most important item – his snipe hunting net!
But seriously, now I feel like my day hikes aren't serious enough. I think UL principles would here dictate that he mooch everything off of his 7-8 compadres.Apr 20, 2013 at 11:50 pm #1978923
I go solo most of the time, so I want enough CYA for a night out.
Mooching doesn't work when most of the others don't have the right stuff themselves, or you get separated from the group.
Under-equipped day hikers are a pet peeve of mine— don't get me started!Apr 21, 2013 at 12:04 am #1978924
You all have got to be kidding. Bring water, candy bars, and a wind shirt. Rain jacket if precipitation is in the forecast. Leave all that other junk behind.Apr 21, 2013 at 12:31 am #1978925
Nick, that is bad advice. If someone needs to ask, they need the full menu.
That doesn't mean the stuff has too be heavy, just the right tools for travel.Apr 21, 2013 at 2:43 am #1978929
@morte66Locale: Surrey flatlands, England
Where are you going? What's it like? Does it have cellphone coverage and a passing hiker every 10 minutes, or are you going out in the wilderness where you could break an ankle and have to fend for yourself until the search team arrives 2 days later? Is there a group cooking plan (or restaurant reservation)? Do you care if you go without hot food for a day?Apr 21, 2013 at 5:48 am #1978940
The OP didn't say where they were hiking and that can be a major factor. That said, for where most of my day hikes are I find that snacks, water, and a wind shirt pretty much covers it.Apr 21, 2013 at 8:39 am #1978983
That's just it: assume you will be in a situation where you won't need the stuff and you'll find yourself hosed when you do. People get themselves in messes on seemingly simple hikes— what I call "Gilligan Tours." It was only supposed to be three hours :) I gave first aid while on a very easy day hike to an elderly person who fell and gashed her head on a rock. There were indeed lots of people— and not another first aid kit but mine.
I see people hiking in cotton clothing and not even a water bottle, let alone a flashlight or other essentials. Take a wrong turn in the late afternoon and you just might find out how dark it can be when under heavy foliage and away from city lights. And how wet it can be without a simple poncho or the rain jacket you left in the car.
I keep all the small bits in a one liter stuff sack so it transfers from day pack to multi-day. I don't need to think about keeping track of it all, just grabbing that bundle. Maps and insulation I tune to the trip, the rest is a standardized kit.
The hot food thing is totally optional. A hot drink or some soup is nice on a cold wet hike.Apr 21, 2013 at 8:46 am #1978985
thanks for the info guys
this hike will be 7 miles round trip so 3.5 miles one way on a well populated trail
and the weather should be good with highs in the mid 80 s and maybe some wind but nothing hurricane force or anything
im guessing its not a super long hike as the hike starts at 11-30 am so i guess its more of an afternoon hike really
a snake bite kit and windshirt will go with me for sure the rest will be detirmined
later after i figure it out
kevinApr 21, 2013 at 9:04 am #1978991
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@speltLocale: SW/C PA
With that information, I would personally take:
snacks/water (100 oz camelback full at the start would be plenty for me so no purification paraphernalia)
contractor trash bag (raingear, shelter, sit sheet)
clothes appropriate for weather
sunglassesApr 21, 2013 at 9:09 am #1978992
Really. you carry one of those Kevin? No remedy for venom other than anti venom. You can do more harm than good cutting and sucking. Get bit, get help.
Watch Venom ER reruns. Don't pick up snakes. Don't put you hands or feet where you can't see them. You'll be fine.Apr 21, 2013 at 11:38 am #1979029
Agree. Snake bite kit is a bad idea. Focus on prevention.Apr 21, 2013 at 11:46 am #1979030
"Nick, that is bad advice. If someone needs to ask, they need the full menu."
You're probably right. But if they need to ask, they might not know how to use a lot of the stuff anyway.
The list I posted is truly what I bring, other than on some cross country hikes I bring map and compass. Let's think about tail runners. They cover more distance and are more likely to get injured. I bet most of them are not carrying all this stuff! We are too risk adverse. And too many people go out and have no idea what they are doing.Apr 21, 2013 at 11:59 am #1979032
for my 25mi Presi in a day hike I carried:
Sierra designs Microlight windshirt/light rain jacket
icebreaker 200 LS shirt
light goretex running mitten shells
thin helmet liner hat
spare socks (switched at lunch on Washington, soo nice)
mini bic lighter
1L water bottle, refilled at each hut.
Snack food and sandwich for lunch, drink mix
(i MAY have had an insulation layer packed but forecast was 80's so i may not have, didn't use it if i did)
zip off pants
short sleeve synthetic shirt
Solomon trail shoes
running hat (meshy bball style)
sunglasses (i don't usually but important for so much above treeline time)
Depends on the forecast, "worst weather in the world" potential but had an amazing forecast so the need for some stuff wasn't there. We also had a group and multiple bail out points. I tend to go with the thought that if i stay light and (able to be) fast then I shouldn't need overnight gear on a day hike.Apr 21, 2013 at 12:32 pm #1979047
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
This is what I carry for winter day hikes:
long underwear top + bottom
laplander folding saw
Most of this stuff is in case I have to spend the night. If I had to spend the night, I would set up a shelter and keep a fire going to stay warm. If you are hiking in an area where building a fire is impossible, I would bring more extra clothing and a bivy.Apr 21, 2013 at 12:37 pm #1979052
sounds like he is going soon so it's not really winter anymore.Apr 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm #1979080
"Let's think about trail runners. They cover more distance and are more likely to get injured. I bet most of them are not carrying all this stuff!"
I know that I trail run 5 days a week, typically 8-13 miles per day. I usually go out before breakfast. I take a car key and a Road ID on a chain around my neck. I don't usually take food, water, or extra clothing. If I go later in the day and it is extremely hot I take water.
I figure that I have spent much of my spare time in the woods hiking, running, hunting, fishing, camping, canoeing, kayaking, snowshoeing, mountain biking, and what not for the last 55 years or so and have managed fine, so I must be doing something right.
I do carry a bit more on hikes than runs, but still carry very little.Apr 23, 2013 at 7:47 pm #1979918
I would agree with an earlier post – ditch the snake bite kit. Are you serious about an 11:30AM start? That's way too late – get another group..Apr 23, 2013 at 8:36 pm #1979924
"….it's not really winter anymore"
Now hang on there just a minute :)
In the last 48 hours we got 6" snow about where the PCT crosses I-90 (Snoqualmie Pass). That kind of "it's not really winter anymore" thinking is where people get hypothermia. How about a couple hours of 33F rain and no sun? Micro-climates can get you too– move 5 miles over the right (or wrong) pass and you can have a whole different misadventure! That's why my list is so detailed.Apr 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm #1979933
@paulmagsLocale: People's Republic of Boulder
How about IAD? (It all Depends?)
I'be been known to pack in a Coleman two burner stove, sausages and beer for a full moon October-fest themed hike…
but that may be overkill for the 3.5 mile hike on well populated trail for normal people. :)
For a short hike on a well populated trail, esp one I know well, a day pack with water, snacks, and a light jacket is about all I take. If I am feeling esp saucy, I may even hike in comfy cotton cargo shorts! :D
For more ambitious hikes
, often off trail and above tree lino, esp solo, the kit is not far removed from my backpacking kit: Warm hat, gloves, shell mitts, etc. etc. etc. Just no shelter and no sleeping bag.
SOOOO..if I am hiking the Mummy Range by myself, you better believe I am prepared. If I am taking a stroll to the Royal Arch in town (3 miles r/t), I am more likely to pack a little libation rather than the ten essentials. :)
I threw together this basic list a few years back for general mountain hiking. More than foothills, on trail and in three-season Colorado weather when the weather forecast looks good:
Modify it as appropriate.
Typical for me, it does not list specific gear, but rather *type* of gear.
Conservative, but people new to the outdoors tend to like/need basic, solid advice.
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