Roll top closure, Roll bottom closure

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I was thinking about how much I liked having bottom access to my old Lowe Alpine pack and realized that I haven't seen a UL pack with a bottom access. Zipper would add weight, but I was wondering during class today about adding a roll top style closure to the bottom of a pack. Have you seen something like this before? Thoughts? Ideas?

Thanks.

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[Ken Thompson]

Would probably be heavier than a zipper. What about a UL panel loader?

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I haven't compared the clips and extra fabric needed to do a roll bottom versus a zipper. I was also thinking about a zipper to make something like a panel loader.

Does anyone have numbers on comparing weight of a zipper versus a roll top? Thanks.

[Colin Krusor]

A roll would almost certainly be heavier than just a zipper. A roll requires not only a certain amount of extra pack fabric, but also a stiffener and closure hardware. But a roll is stronger, more durable, and more water resistant than a zipper, and it affords you some pack volume flexibility. I can think of ways to make a pack with a roll top and roll bottom that opens up into a rectangular sheet (a groundsheet?).

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Now that is a possibility. Make it dual use to compensate for the weight.

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