Oct 10, 2012 at 8:50 am #1294855
someone (tlabeotsbran) 10/10/2012 09:26:21 MDT
is posting links to sites for item for sale , noticed becoming more prevalant, user is not a member just a fyi
and the links are not for any gear
not sure but the site admnin should remove the postOct 10, 2012 at 9:15 am #1919827
While you are logged in and looking at one of these questionable posts click on the "center" Red Flag icon in the upper right hand corner of the questionable post. Then click Submit Report.
The forum moderators will take it from that point and rid us of this "bot".
Welcome to the forum. ;-)
NewtonOct 10, 2012 at 11:11 am #1919866
i have tried to do the red flag and it works but its like a full time job the post are coming in more and more and now from other annonymous users.
please block them they are ruining the members experience. with garbage adds.Oct 10, 2012 at 11:19 am #1919870
Jerry AdamsBPL Member
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
if the spammer would just do a few posts to optimize his search engine response it wouldn't be so bad. Does this many posts make a big difference? Is he just trying to be annoying?Oct 10, 2012 at 11:50 am #1919885
Somebody wake up the moderator or call in the Geek Squad!
These annoying SPAMS are probably sneaking in some back door in the software that puts those annoying little adds in under our posts. ;-?
There, I feel better now.
NewtonOct 10, 2012 at 3:11 pm #1919973
Erik BasilBPL Member
Yeah… this reminds me of some discussions regarding the "vintage" of the software used for the BBS and CMS here.
In the short term, pending the agony of upgrade, the best thing to do is to ensure that you, when you see the spam, take the time for the red-flagging of the post. Don't rely upon others to have done it and don't worry if the Admins get a load of notices. If everyone does it, it's easier to find the posts and remove the user accounts. Trust me, I do it from the admin side somewhere else, all the time. (Less of a job with better BBS software)Oct 10, 2012 at 4:23 pm #1920006
Last time this happened, I just happened to be browsing the forum at the time and red-flagged at least 20 posts, which appeared faster than I could red-flag them.
A few days later, I noticed that the posts I had red-flagged were still there, but the username of the poster/spambot had been changed to "SPAM."
It appears from this past incident that BPL may now be doing this instead of deleting the spammer's posts. This stops future spam (until the spambot registers under a new identity and a different IP address), but does nothing to get rid of the many spam posts already there, which are truly annoying to the regular forum users. It also leaves the links in the spam posts available for the curious to click on, which is the whole reason for spamming in the first place–to increase the hits on a site.
I help moderate another forum, and I can assure you that on that one, as soon as a regular forum reader flags a post as spam, it will be pounced on, deleted and the spammer's IP banned. In fact, there have been a few amusing situations in which two or three of us are trying to delete the spam at the same time! The key is to have enough volunteer moderators. No, I'm not volunteering, because I am already committed to the other forum. However, with half a dozen more volunteers out there, our "friend" "SPAM" could be kept in check.Oct 10, 2012 at 4:37 pm #1920013
"However, with half a dozen more volunteers out there, our "friend" "SPAM" could be kept in check."
I've been making this same suggestion for months now. Perhaps you'll get more traction! ;-)Oct 10, 2012 at 6:35 pm #1920070
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
> i have tried to do the red flag and it works but its like a full time job the post
> are coming in more and more and now from other annonymous users.
If you think that is bad, think about the effort required to go through and delete them all!!!!
But please do report them, as I can ban the poster. Of course, he can register another name when I do that, so it's a bit of a war.
Online Community Monitor
PS: should I ever meet one of these guys in a dark alley … his marriage prospects will decrease.Oct 10, 2012 at 8:40 pm #1920107
The problem with not deleting spam posts, as I previously stated, is that some folks just can't resist clicking on links. That means that there are more hits to the sites, which is exactly what the spammer wants to accomplish. If the word goes out that spam posts here are not deleted promptly, you'll just get more and more and more! What you're getting here is obviously an automated spambot system whose operator has found fertile ground here.
That's why I suggested recruiting half a dozen volunteers to help moderate the forums. One or two people can't do it all!
I'm sure a lot of us would be willing to help you in that dark alley, too!Oct 10, 2012 at 9:13 pm #1920115
David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
Agreed. I moderate a much more sensitive forum and have annoted many co-moderators. Everyone does only as much as they are sure of. Deleting such obvious spam is low-hanging fruit.
High-functioning moderators have jobs, families, and hopefully go BPing at times. For 24-hour coverage, I'd estimate 15-20 moderators would be needed to provide timely deletions of such advertisements.Oct 11, 2012 at 3:45 am #1920157
James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Yeah, more moderators would help. More people means more coordination. More computers with potential for being hacked. (A hacked computer could do MORE damage than an inadvertent moderator.)
I do not think the current moderators do a bad job. They cleaned up yesterdays mess in fairly short order. Judging from the some of the headers, though, the spammer/hacker was fairly inept and it was likely a manual attack. A programmed attack could have really slowed the system down and added LARGE ammounts of spam to every subject, except those topics that are closed (Gear Swap, Lifer forums, etc.) He probably missed the time-between-posts rule, if he was programming the attack. He could automate a random name, registration and post his spam for several hours, before anyone locked him out. Note that sending address can be changed…"spoofing", difficult to trace except by hardware ID's. Even these can be changed, though…
A closed site would work far better. Simply moderating a new member would stop automated or semi-automated spamming. But this requires a LOT more work from the moderators…Oct 11, 2012 at 4:01 am #1920159
"A closed site would work far better. Simply moderating a new member would stop automated or semi-automated spamming. But this requires a LOT more work from the moderators…"
Mary a.k.a. Hiking Granny can elaborate on this as the other forum that she helps moderate operates in this way. New "members" are moderated a.k.a. supervised until they have made a number of what I will call "worthy posts". After a decent number of good posts, I believe it is at least 10 or more, the noob is granted "full" member status.
I remember when I joined in on that forum it seemed like I'd never get to the full member status. I knew I had posted more than the minimum needed good posts and I was still stuck in noob status. I am now a full member of that forum.
When I joined BPL as a paying member I don't remember any such restrictions being placed on me. ;-?
NewtonOct 11, 2012 at 5:24 am #1920173
James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Yeah, that's fairly standard on the sites I moderate, too.Oct 11, 2012 at 2:03 pm #1920338
Dena KelleyBPL Member
@eagleriverdeeLocale: Eagle River, Alaska
I moderate another forum and over there if you delete a user, you also have the option of deleting every one of the users posts at the same time.
I think closing the forum to require admin/mod approval of all new members would be too time intensive for the admin/mods and would bar legitimately interested people from the forum that don't feel like jumping through a bunch of hoops to register. We had our forum closed for a while, to prevent a particularly persistent troll from registering there again for the umpteenth time and it was effective. But that's a double edged sword. New blood is important to forum vitality. Old timers get bored and stop participating after they've become well versed in all the topics, new blood comes in and the forum keeps plugging along. When we closed the forum we had the people who got bored and left, but no new blood to replace them and the forum became quite slow. We opened it back up for that reason.Oct 11, 2012 at 2:54 pm #1920356
drowning in spamMember
I agree that moderating new users is not a good idea with this forum as it requires much more timely and involved moderation otherwise 'guests' will leave before their posts go online.Oct 11, 2012 at 2:54 pm #1920357
Erik BasilBPL Member
I see quite a few non-deleted spam posts from the Tiffany lamp and replica watch and etc… postings of a few days ago. It is important, if one does not want more to arrive, that these posts are removed rather that only locked down.Oct 14, 2012 at 5:55 pm #1921224Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 pm #1921226Oct 14, 2012 at 5:58 pm #1921227Oct 14, 2012 at 7:19 pm #1921252
@skyzoLocale: Borah Gear
This is getting out of control.Oct 14, 2012 at 7:23 pm #1921255
Eric LundquistBPL Member
@cobbermanLocale: Northern Colorado
They're even posting in the "Site Being Hacked" thread.Oct 14, 2012 at 7:47 pm #1921263
by greenaonir aifsengh
Most if not all of these SPAM posts are by the above spammer.
I know its not this simple but block his user name or block his IP address!
Saying "this is getting out of hand" implies that we ever had a hand on it.
I say again, we need to oversee the posts of people new to the forum. Let the noobies view the content that is freely available but moderate and approve their posts for a period of time before allowing free accesss to posting JUNK like these SPAM posts. We can't keep letting stuff like this happen to these forums and expect any new "serious" interested guests or prospective members to even consider BPL as a helpful or informative website.
There is a page and half when I last looked of JUNK on the recent posts listing!
Uncle Jed Clampett said it best, "Pitiful, just pitiful"!
Party On ;-?
NewtonOct 14, 2012 at 8:07 pm #1921273
Close the screen door already the flies are getting in!
247 JUNK/SPAM posts in under 3 hours, "C'mon man"!
Update the software and moderate the noob posts!
Newton ;-(Oct 14, 2012 at 8:43 pm #1921299
This does seem more like a malicious attack rather than a simple spammer.
Who is a moderator besides Roger? I sent him a PM but he's obviously not at home (it's midday tomorrow where he is).
More moderators are needed here!
Edit: I see the poster's name just got changed to SPAM, which at least means the incoming flow has been stopped!
Second massive attack in 5 days, and I'll bet it's the same outfit!
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