Hilleberg Tent thread

[David Ure]

God bless Henry for pushing the envelope and thus pushing the large manufacturers.

[Eric Osburn]

I've got a kaitum 3 that I love and the only thing I dislike about it is the weight. How much weight do you think I could drop off it if I went with lighter guy lines and tensioners like those from zpacks?

http://zpacks.com/accessories/spectra_cord.shtml

Ideas? Is it worth my time and money? Should I just man up and haul her around?

[Ian]

Their specs on the Akto and now the Enan concern me. The Akto is advertised to be 87" long which should accommodate me at 6'3" but from everything I've read, not to even try and stick with the Unna. While I didn't crawl inside it, I saw one at the GGG and wrote it off as too short.

The Enan, advertised "WE MODELED THE NEW ENAN after our awardwinning,best-selling Akto" is advertised at 84.7" and 13" tall at the ends. Again, a true 84" length with 13" minimum height *should* work but I remain skeptical. Hopefully Feathered Friends store in Seattle will eventually display one in their store as I'd be interested to check it out. TT Moment remains on the short-list though.

Edit just pondering out loud as I realize no one here has had their hands on one.

[greg c]

Hi Eric,

I put my Hilleberg Soulo on a diet earlier this year and below were the results Iposted to a different thread on BPL. I think it could be worth your time if you view 9-10 ounces as significant. Just depends on one's view of what matters in a backcountry setting. Hope it helps.

"I finally got around to modifying my Soulo in hopes of excising a bit of weight. It started out packed at 5 lbs. 3 OZ. It now is right around 4 lbs. 10 oz. To achieve this I removed all of the steel zipper pulls and replaced them with 1mm cord pulls. That saved 1.4 oz. I then replaced all of the guylines and line locs with 2mm cord and taughtline hitches. There was 84 feet of 3mm cord and this saved a net of ~2.33 oz. I then replaced the 12 stakes with 10 MSR carbon core stake's I got a good deal on (I decided that the 2 stakes at the crossing pole were unnecessary). This saved around 2.8 oz. I then weighed the tent stuff sack, pole stuff sack, and stake stuff sack which was in excess of 2.7 oz. I replaced them with a cuben tent stuff sack and a cuben pole sack. This was a net savings of 2.1 oz.

So, in total I shaved off almost 9 oz. My tent still is portly, but I feel better about hauling the red demon out for mountaineering trips when high wind is likely.

Also, I've come to realize that the soulo is ~ 10-12 degrees warmer inside than the ambient temperature and sometimes this difference allows me to take my 30 degree bag over my 15 degree thus saving another 12 oz.

Anyhow, just wanted to share my numbers. At a minimum, removing the noisy zipper pulls is an easy mod and provides a bit of weight relief. I love the tent and now I am more inclined to bring it when conditions are iffy."

[Eric Blumensaadt]

Greg, I'll look at lots of those weight savings you did with my Scarp 2 and Moment DW. Definitely the metal zipper pulls, even though TT's pulls are small,
And the MSR carbon core stakes may be less than my MSR Ground Hogs. My guy lines are Triptease with small plastic tent-end hooks and small Line-Loc adjustors. I'd use tautline hitches but in winter they often freeze.

I did save weight by moving my Scarp's X-ing poles inside B/C they had to be shortened. But I gained a bit when I ordered a heavier duty main sleeve pole from Tentpole Technologies. That's a "winter" pole only. Overall my tent weight went down by 4 oz. even with the heavier main pole.

BTW Ken, I AM thrilled that Hilleberg came around to the Tarptent style of triangular ends as in the Moment. Makes more sense for fast setup and wind shedding. Plus I hope Hilleberg included end venting as Tarptent has.

[Ethan A.]

Thanks for posting the Enan – looks like a nice tent. Eric and others about how light do you think it could be made applying the same weights-shaving Hilleberg mods which have been discussed here?

[Stephen M]

Just back from a quick overnight with the Anjan 3GT.

It was my first time using a GT model and I was blown away by the porch space, so much so in fact
I am thinking of changing our Kaitum 3 for a GT version.

When I get a chance I will post a proper review, but lets just say it l am very happy with it.

[Eric Blumensaadt]

Hey Ken,

Please post the specs for the new Enan. I'm "all-a-twitter" about this tent, to quote Dirty Harry.

[Stephen M]

Hi Eric,

I think a lot of folk will be interested in the Enan.

[Ken Thompson]

Hilleberg specs link

[Eric Blumensaadt]

Thanks Ken,

Hilleberg says it's for "… your snow-free adventures." I think it can work in snow too.

Nice relatively (compared to Akto) light weight.

Now to put a X-ing pole inside the fly for snow camping… ;o)

[Stephen M]

I was speaking to Hilleberg a few days ago with a question on my Anjan and they mentioned the Enan is due out in MarchApril, I was told it will have the same footprint as the Atko.

[Eric Blumensaadt]

The Akto is much wider at each end than the Enan. How could the footprints be the same?

[Stephen M]

That's what Shannon at Hilleberg said to me the other day.

[Stephen M]

I would be interested in it if it was the same size as the Atko, any smaller and I would not be so sure.

[Doug Smith]

It's fun to see this thread continuing. My newest addition to my addiction (see what I did there? :(

I'll have both the Tarra and Jannu with me at a SAR training the first week of September, and then the Jannu will likely come as my solo backpacking trip in the Sierra the following week. Talk about overkill…hehe but still fun.

Here is my new Jannu on her maiden voyage, a motorcycle trip a few weeks ago in Oregon. I've got to say, I REALLY like the "sand" color. It's really more of a nice bronze color. I find it much cheerier than the green Hillebergs I've had and not as in your face as the reds:

[Stephen M]

Hi Doug,

Thats a beast of a tent for solo trips.

Cheers,

Stephen

[Doug Smith]

Howdy Stephen, it sure is hahaha.

I'm trying very hard not to convince myself that I "need" a sand colored Unna. I tried the Unna briefly before replacing it with the Soulo. The truth is, for a solo person, I think I agree with Ken, who likes the Unna better. You actually get more living space (though a smaller vestibule), and simpler design and lighter weight. It just makes more sense for backpacking. Now that said, the Soulo does look way cooler (haha sorry Unna fans).

But alas, I don't think I'll have the funds together before my trip, so the Jannu will be joining me as the overkill machine. ;-)

[Stephen M]

Hi Doug,

I think I mentions far back in the thread I swapped out my Soulo
for an Unna, even though I have it a year I have not used it yet
as all my winter trips I used either the Kaitum 3 or Golite Sl3.
My buddies own crap tents so we always end up using mine.

The Unna really deserves a few trips this winter.

Cheers,

Stephen

[Stephen M]

Has anyone used the Anjan 2 solo?

[Brian Reyman]

I often use the Anjan 2 for solo trips. It's certainly heavier than many other options, but I reduced my kit some and kept that as it works for solo and when I go with my wife. It's the typical story as with most 2 man tents – works for two people that are cozy – is a palace for 1.

It's the second lightest tent in Hilleberg's lineup – Akto is just a bit lighter, but the Anjan is MUCH roomier with more interior, more height (in the right places – like the head end) and in the vestibule.

Now, the Enan does look very tempting as the decreased space may be worth a 1.5 pound drop in weight from the Anjan.

[Stephen M]

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the reply.

I am also interested in the Enan, I will probaly
hold off a while until it gets some testing from Bpl folk.

My days of early adoption are well over.

[Mike Oxford]

Those are going to be way heavy for SAR work in Central California, unless you're OES Type-1 AND deployed MA into a multi-day in the Sierras at high elevation in winter … and even then it's iffy. =)

Most SAR op-periods are 8 hours and then you're back at the CP. Being out overnight is a rarity to begin with. You're going to want to move fast and light. Your (very rare) overnights will be accidental and those tents are a ton of weight to be humping every day "just in case." Type-1 will get you more overnights but in much tougher terrain and with more exertion. Again, fast and light – bivvies/tarps mostly. I humped an SL3 (fly-only) on our last one, (we shoved three people into it (and I'm 6'6" … =) but that's a rarity.

Hope to see you in the field! =)

-Mike
Santa Clara County SAR

[Doug Smith]

Hi Mike, it's a small world. I've probably run into you on mutual aid calls over the years. I've been on Santa Cruz SO SAR for the past 16 years (13 of which have been as a Deputy), and a patrol K9 handler for the past 4 years. :)

I totally agree about the Hille's being overkill for SAR missions, I like them in a base camp role, such as at SAREX this coming weekend. I like their longevity, but agree that they are a lot of tent for our local conditions. The primary reasons I'm bringing them to SAREX is that they are fun, and they are also the only tents I own. Hahaha…sort of reduces the options.

Swing by the green and tan Hillebergs at SAREX this weekend in Napa and say, "Hi". :-D

[Stephen M]

I was asked on another thread to post the specs of the Anjan 2.

Tent in Bag 1799g(with tags removed)
Tent bag 37g
Pegs 100g
Peg bag 8g
Poles. 318g
Pole bag with spare pole 50g
Inner 612g
Outer 676g

Poles 17 inch long.

Packed size 21 by 8.

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