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    James Byrnes
    Spectator

    @backfeets1

    Locale: Midwest.... Missouri

    Has any explanation been proposed as to why an air barrier, in the base of a wind screen, speeds up boil times? I found this info on youtube.

    #1868466
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    What is an air barrier?
    Sounds typical YouTube to me.

    Cheers

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    Michael Ray
    BPL Member

    @topshot

    Locale: Midwest

    I had to wonder the same thing, Roger.

    Air Barrier video. I'd not seen this mentioned here before but from Jon Fong's posts here that I've read, he knows a lot about alcohol stoves and their design. I see he runs Flat Cat Gear.

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    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    The air barrier started out as an experiment to see if I could make a cone windscreen less sensitive to the wind. A horizontal barrier plate was added to separate the upper, flame area of a stove with the lower reservoir section of the stove (http://youtu.be/AxX6EOTNG7I). What I think I found were two effects: one that the barrier focuses the inlet air to help shape the flame of the stove. As the plate got closer to the outlet of the flame, the more the inlet air “pinched” the flame creating a tighter flame spot. Secondly, the “burner volume” was reduced thereby increasing the temperature around the top of the stove (causing a faster burn rate). Those were my thoughts anyway – Jon

    BTW – this is the original air barrier video (http://youtu.be/EU_jKlJ9r1Y)

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    Ultra Magnus
    Member

    @ultra_magnus

    I like this explanation- "Here's what's happening, the plate directs a small amount of incoming air to the flame where it gets used in the fire. Key is it keeps loads of cold air from flooding in & cooling the pot."

    It's esp. true if your windscreen has lots of airflow, so you get convection drawing in more cold air than is required for combustion, which would cool the hot gasses as they rise up the sides of the pot. I've had the thought to try something like this out, but never did for 3 reasons, lazy, lack of free time, and it looks like it would be awkward to pack, but that could be overcome. Mostly for the first two reasons… I did do something like that for my wood-gas stove though, which I've only bench tested…

    BM

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