Apr 4, 2012 at 10:37 am #1288297
@flemdawg1Locale: SE US
I'm returning my BA Air Core for the 3rd time, and thinking about starting over with something else.
Looking for some reccomendations for side sleppers.Apr 4, 2012 at 10:38 am #1863533
NeoAir.Apr 4, 2012 at 10:42 am #1863535
Ryan TuckerBPL Member
Neo Air.Apr 4, 2012 at 10:43 am #1863536
@flemdawg1Locale: SE US
The reason I' hve to keep returning the BAs is because of them leaking (however I can never find them even in a bath tub). I don't nessacarily think I'm careless with my gear.Apr 4, 2012 at 10:59 am #1863554
Andy FBPL Member
Exped SynMat UL7
Consider using a 1/8" foam pad underneath, such as the pad sold by Gossamer Gear. I might do that myself if I ever get a puncture.Apr 4, 2012 at 11:48 am #1863584
@nageek18Locale: Bay Area
If you are worried about punctures, the nemo astro air is super durable although you pay with it with more ounces.Apr 4, 2012 at 12:27 pm #1863604
Bob BankheadBPL Member
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
I too suffered three consecutive BA Insulated Air Core pad failures due to tiny leaks.
My wife and I have each used a Thermarest Prolite Plus for the past two years. Mine is 20 x 47 and hers is the longer woman's model 20 x 66. Both pads are 1.5 inches thick. Works like a charm. Tested and proven by us on the TRT and the CT. Great back pad/virtual frame for our packs. Very comfortable for side sleeping (and rolling). Never leaked.
Try one on the concrete floor at REI. Toss. Turn. Whatever. You can't feel the concrete with shoulder or hip (unless you fall on it that way).Apr 4, 2012 at 7:02 pm #1863763
@zalmen_mlotekLocale: Northwest CT
I tried just a Z-rest, didn't work. I tried z-rest plus torsolite, better but still didn't sleep that great. Picked up a Neoair, best sleep in the backcountry to date.Apr 4, 2012 at 7:06 pm #1863766
+1 on the Exped SynMat UL7Apr 4, 2012 at 7:14 pm #1863771
I still own (and sometimes use) my old, 1984 Thermarest. My wife broke down and bought me the Prolite, which I liked, but my hips got sore from side sleeping. I gave it another week of sleeping and finally broke down and bought the Neoair. I've not had a bad nights sleep since! I did discover a tiny puncture, but I patched it and was back to blissful slumber within minutes.
The size and weight is also a plus…Apr 4, 2012 at 7:30 pm #1863779
Chad “Stick” PoindexterBPL Member
@stickLocale: Hot & Humid Southeast....
Another vote for the Neo…Apr 4, 2012 at 7:31 pm #1863781
Evan McCarthyBPL Member
I rotated back and forth this spring between the Exped Synmat UL 7 and the Neoair Xlite. The Neoair, in the end, is enough for me in terms of comfort to weight ratio but the Exped is definitely far more comfortable hip-down, and also larger and sturdier.Apr 4, 2012 at 8:52 pm #1863806
USA Duane HallBPL Member
@hikerduaneLocale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
I've had my small NeoAir since they came out. I had to sent that back as it had a pinhole from the get-go, CD sent me a new one, no issues since. I have a floorless Squall but use a medium weight GG polycryo groundcloth.
DuaneApr 4, 2012 at 9:07 pm #1863812
One word. Hammock.Apr 4, 2012 at 9:47 pm #1863823
How does a hammock work for a side sleeper? That doesn't sound comfortable at all.Apr 4, 2012 at 10:06 pm #1863828
Edward JursekBPL Member
@nedjursekgmail-comLocale: Pacific Northwest
I am a side sleeper and moved to an inflatable Neo Air two years ago. Due to the cost and reliability issues, I bought it at REI. While REI can cost a bit more, their return policy is excellent. My Neo Air failed on a trip last summer with the typical slow leak that was impossible to find in my bath tub, much less find and patch in the field. I returned it to REI and spoke with the staff. They suggested I try the Exped UL 7, as it was appearing to be returned less often then the Neo Air. I know this is purely anecdotal, but I regularly cruise the gear garage at the REI Seattle Flag Ship Store in Seattle, and see a lot of Neo Air returns being sold but never any Expeds. So far so good for my UL 7. I take along a torso pad (a cut down old Z Rest) as a back-up that doubles as my frameless pack's back pad and as a sit pad. When my Neo Air failed in the middle of the Pasayten Wilderness the torso pad was less than luxurious but help salvage my trip.Apr 4, 2012 at 10:18 pm #1863831
K CBPL Member
@kalebcLocale: South West
A hammock works for side sleepers as well as it works when there are no trees.Apr 5, 2012 at 6:07 am #1863876
todd harperBPL Member
@funnymoLocale: Sunshine State
Side sleeping comfort in a hammock depends on the user and which hammock is chosen…..just like CCF pads vs inflatable, etc.Apr 5, 2012 at 6:10 am #1863877
Ken T.BPL Member
On the ground, Neo.
A lot of side sleepers, myself included wind up sleeping on your back in a hammock. Since it is not like sleeping in a bed with pressure points, you might as well. Try it.
Hammocking for 12 years.Apr 5, 2012 at 8:17 am #1863924
@coreyfmillerLocale: Eastern Canada
Another +1 for the NeoAir Xlite or Trekker.Apr 5, 2012 at 8:23 am #1863931
Andy FBPL Member
Trying a hammock is a great idea. You'll either love it or wish you loved it. :)Apr 5, 2012 at 9:40 am #1863977
Barry PBPL Member
@barrypLocale: Eastern Idaho (moved from Midwest)
OK, you side sleepers; how do you sleep w/o getting a numb arm after ½ hour?
I always get a numb arm on my neoair (and prolites and all CCF) so I’ve just been sleeping on my back or front.
-BarryApr 5, 2012 at 10:23 am #1863986
has anybody tried rei's new insulated inflatable pad, the stratus? 20 oz with R value of 3, but regular size is only 75 bucks.Apr 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm #1864092
Ben H.BPL Member
@bzhayesLocale: So. California
I just bought it. It seems like a real steal compared to the Neo air. I haven't tried it out yet though. I am a little concerned, its construction suggests it will have cold spots. The guy at rei said when you lay on it, the gaps squish together and prevent cold spots. Compared to the Neo Air trekker it is cheaper, lighter, and has a higher r-value. The other neo air's are better in one of the metrics but not the other two. Durability is hard to quantify at this stage for any of the mats.
Combined with the 20% off coupon and REI's guaranteed I figured I will give it a try.Apr 5, 2012 at 3:03 pm #1864109
That i'm going to get one too, with the exact same reasoning. Why not? REI will take it back if its not quite satisfactory, and if that happens, then hey, I'll be halfway to having enough for a synmat UL 7.
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