Mar 7, 2012 at 8:43 pm #1286796
Randy MartinBPL Member
I have used variable length poles for the last few years but have the heavy BD poles and am looking to cut weight. I am considering some Fixed Length CF poles. My question is to other Fixed Length pole users out there. How often have you had them and wished you had variable length poles? I find that the only real reason I change the length is for storing the poles, temporarily lashing to my pack or shelter setup. I know the shelter setup can still be accomplished with Fixed Length but am a little concerned about times where I would want to not use the poles for a section of trail. Has that happened to you? Thoughts?Mar 7, 2012 at 8:53 pm #1850400
Todd TBPL Member
@texasbbLocale: Pacific Northwest
I like my poles the same length regardless of terrain, direction, etc., and my tent has its own pole, so I have never wanted to change the length.
The problem is that the length options are limited, so I can't really get a pair exactly the length I want. I have a pair of BD Z-Poles and they're about an inch longer than my perfect length. I won't buy another fixed-length pair unless I can get them exactly 117 cm long.Mar 7, 2012 at 9:43 pm #1850426
@glacierramblerLocale: NW Montana
Skurka suggests in his new book MYOGing fixed length poles from carbon fiber golf shafts. You should be able to get the rest of the materials as replacement parts from Leki or GG (I haven't actually checked this out). It's an interesting idea, but I'm happy enough with my adjustable poles–at least for now.Mar 7, 2012 at 9:58 pm #1850434
You should be able to find CF ski poles in 117cm length.Mar 8, 2012 at 5:55 am #1850472
Ken T.BPL Member
The problem with them is when you are not using them. I felt like I was carrying a radio pack with my fix length poles strapped to the side of my pack.
I know Jay Wilkerson loves his. No locking mechanism to fail.Mar 8, 2012 at 6:09 am #1850473
Chris CBPL Member
@cvcassLocale: State of Jefferson
I have Black Diamond Zpoles, I just fold them up and strap them to my pack when they are unnecessary. Overall I am very pleased with them.Mar 8, 2012 at 6:36 am #1850481
Philip DelvoieBPL Member
@philipdLocale: Ontario, Canada
I am finding that I set my poles when I start my trip and do not change them or collapse them through the whole trip. I do use them for my shelter setup and just make everything work at the length I have preset. I am leaning toward just going with fixed length poles in order to reduce an area of failure and to add simplicity.Mar 8, 2012 at 6:43 am #1850484
Sumi WadaBPL Member
@detroittigerfanLocale: Ann Arbor
FWIW, there are UL adjustable length or collapsible pole options out there.
I have both the Fizan UL poles (adjustable) and the BD Z Distance poles (collapsible). Both weigh under a pound for the pair. Both are aluminum and cost <$100 for the pair. Big Agnes also has UL adjusable length poles.
I like adjustable length poles for three reasons. First is for travel, so that they fit inside my checked luggage. Second is for my shelters where the the pole is designed to go *inside* the shelter; yes, there are work-arounds but having adjustible poles makes it a no-brainer. Third is, as you mentioned, being able to easily store them in my pack.Mar 8, 2012 at 7:20 am #1850501
@halpottsLocale: Middle Tennessee
I have used adjustable and fixed length poles and now I am quite the fan of fixed length. The only downside for me would be packing the poles for airplane travel which I don't do that often. The whole notion that you would want to change pole length to one setting while going uphill and another while going downhill always seemed like way overthinking it to me. I found that except for transporting the poles they were always set at one length and never changed throughout the entire hike. I had a custom set of LT3C's made by GG to the exact length I prefer and they work like a charm for me.Mar 8, 2012 at 7:47 am #1850506
Ben WortmanBPL Member
I have a pair of MYOG golf shaft poles. I really prefer these to an adjustable version based on the much lower weight. Even with the adjustable version, I never change the length unless I am strapping them to my pack. I rarely find myself doing that. With the fixed length poles, if you are above tree line or in an area that there aren't many low hanging branches, you can just strap them on and look like a backcountry radio HAM with the antenna look mentioned previously.Mar 8, 2012 at 7:55 am #1850509
Hamish McHamishBPL Member
"The problem with them is when you are not using them."
If you only hike on trails it would probably not be too much of a PITA having fixed length poles lashed to your pack when not in use. But I do a lot of off-trail travel and the poles get in the way when moving through the thick stuff, so I collapse them and strap them to my pack. I can't imagine trying to bushwack with fixed poles on my pack. Well, actually I can imagine it and it would suck big time.
My old Leki Makalus are crazy heavy, so I'm open to improvements. I wanted to love the BD collapsible poles but the wrist straps are attached with dental floss so I don't trust them to hold up well.Mar 8, 2012 at 11:22 am #1850621
Barry PBPL Member
@barrypLocale: Eastern Idaho (moved from Midwest)
“ How often have you had them and wished you had variable length poles?”
I used fixed length (GG LT3) all the time. While backpacking, I never wished for variable length. In the middle of nowhere, I’m glad I don’t have a moving part to worry about.
“…am a little concerned about times where I would want to not use the poles for a section of trail. Has that happened to you? ”
I use them on flats and bushwacking on mountain sides (where I love them). There are those very rare instances where I need to be on all 4’s while bagging a steep peak. I did not mind them on the side of my pack at that time.
The mountains were made for Teva’sMar 8, 2012 at 12:01 pm #1850635
I will never again use anything else. I use the pole at one length all of the time. Bad comparison, but drummers use the same stick to hit every drum so I use the same poles for every step. My poles fit perfect in the floor of my mazda behind the front seats and I never have to worry about loose screws. I use a Gossamer gear tent and made 2" extensions that weigh less than 1/2 ounce to set up my tent. Total weight for poles and extensions- under 6 ounces. Haven't broke one yet, but I know I will sooner or later. Still worth it though.Mar 8, 2012 at 1:28 pm #1850670
@thinairLocale: 6237' - Manitou Springs
Love my GG fixed length poles.
The only time I take adjustable length poles is if I am planning to climb or scramble on the way up a peak since the fixed length can catch on overhead rock when stowed on the pack.
It would be convenient to have sectioned poles when hitchhiking, but not really a problem to have fixed poles.
Keep in mind the shape of the grips. I find myself using the grips in different positions for steep uphill and downhill. For steep uphill I move my hand down the grip. For downhill I "palm" the top of the grip.
On the GG fixed length poles I have never missed having straps either.
Hope that helps.Mar 8, 2012 at 2:31 pm #1850703
Robert KellyBPL Member
@qiwizLocale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
My default poles are 125 cm GG LT2's. I find I can grip them in different ways to handle my needs going up, down, sidehill, etc. I got LT4's on Gear Swap (yes!) that I save for airplane traveling and having to check luggage where collapsing them is helpful. When I had a Gatewood Cape that I used for many years, adjustable poles were nice to be able to easily raise or lower shelter apex as needed. Now have a Zpacks hexamid and the 125 cm poles are a perfect fit with no adjustment.Mar 8, 2012 at 5:16 pm #1850789
Randy MartinBPL Member
Ok, I have decided to pull the trigger on the Gossamer Gear LT3C fixed length poles which are on sale at the moment for $93.
I will use the heavier duty BD poles I currently have for my alpine/mountaineering pursuits where my poles get beat up much more in talus fields etc.. and will use the LT3's for backpacking on trails. My thought is on trails I generally should not have the need to stash the poles and so fixed length should be less of an issue in those circumstances.
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