Feb 2, 2012 at 12:55 pm #1285076
My 2012 JMT gear list . . . this is pretty much the same gear I carried in 2010 on the JMT. Planning on doing it in 12-14 days during the last two weeks of September. I'd love any advice or feedback. Thanks!Feb 2, 2012 at 1:13 pm #1833435
12-14 days total looks like 6-7 from MTR to Whitney Portal. Bare Boxer 101 is less than 1/2 the size I need for that time & distance.
If you have a secret plan, I respect that. If you want all your food in the bear can overnight then it may be impossible (unless you just pack it full of peanut butter!)Feb 2, 2012 at 1:55 pm #1833469
In 2010 I met two friends at Kearsarge Pass . . . and at that point the can was pretty empty, so your right . . . MTR to the Portal is a little to far for the 101, but I can fit about 5 or 6 days of food in the BB 101.
Typical day on the trail for me is an energy bar in the morning, another around 11 with some gatorade, a GU and another gatorade around 2, another bar in the late afternoon, then dinner. I'll mix a few other things in if I get hungry or feel low on energy, but I keep it pretty simple. I always have corn nuts and snickers too.
Two food pics from Red's Meadow and trailer at VVR:Feb 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm #1833482
. . . I like the idea of packing it full of peanut butter . . . or maybe just fill it with corn nuts and snickers.
:)Feb 2, 2012 at 2:47 pm #1833488
Since you took the bait… values from the Internet:
Bare Boxer 101: 275 cubic inches =4.506 liters
Peanut Butter specific gravity: 1.25 = 1250 g/l
Mass of Bare Boxer full of peanut butter: 5630 g
Calories/ 100 grams of peanut butter: 588 = 5.88 cal/g
Calories in Bare Boxer full of peanut butter: 33,100
Using 2500 calorie/day ration, that gives 13 days.Feb 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm #1833490
"Using 2500 calorie/day ration, that gives 13 days."
Very impressive. However, could you eat only peanut butter for 13 days? I think not.
The very most peanut butter that I can eat is about 20% of my total diet.
–B.G.–Feb 2, 2012 at 3:48 pm #1833506
I could do the entire trail without a resupply!
:)Feb 2, 2012 at 6:41 pm #1833594
@filsingerLocale: Pacific Northwest
I think we should start a BPL betting pool on how many days Joseph would last with his peanut butter only trail quest. I bet 3 days maximum and there would be the happiest marmots and pikas in all of the sierras!
:}Feb 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm #1833598
I knew a guy that lived off of peanut butter for ten or so days. I was not able to be certain he was eating other foods, but he definitely was eating lots of peanut butter.
I could not do it. Why not mix up peanut butter and Nutella? They are similar pastes of comparable nutritional value.Feb 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm #1833616
@justin_bakerLocale: Santa Rosa, CA
I think you could lure in marmots with peanut butter and wack em over the head. Survive off marmot stew the whole trip! Now that I think about it, doesn't the john muir trail go through national forests? I wonder what marmots taste like…Feb 6, 2012 at 3:45 pm #1835432
@ramblerLocale: On the AT in VA
Marmots must be in the Ground Hog family. A recipe for ground hog can be found in the Joy of Cooking.
BTW I found that the thin "Shepherd Hook' tents stakes worked best in the rocky soil areas of the JMT.Feb 7, 2012 at 12:15 am #1835618
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
>"I knew a guy that lived off of peanut butter for ten or so days."
I knew grad students who lived off of peanut butter and Top Ramen for 8 years!
But you're right about the 3 days. I knew two climber types who read labels and concluded the lightest, cheapest calories were in the form of Squeeze Parkay margarine and used that as 2/3 of their intake. They toughed it out for 3 days and then were eyeing even my no-cook items (pumpernickel, triscuits, salami, granola) pretty intently.Mar 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm #1856664
Updated my list . . . I think this is pretty much final.Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 pm #1856831
Added a new column with some stuff i'm on the fence about.Mar 20, 2012 at 6:21 pm #1856834
"I knew grad students who lived off of peanut butter and Top Ramen for 8 years!"
To many college students, those represent two of the major food groups.
–B.G.–Apr 2, 2012 at 10:20 am #1862549
Just got my email confirmation from Yosemite . . . JMT 2012 begins on September 17th!Apr 9, 2013 at 3:51 pm #1974579
JMT again this year . . . last 2 weeks of August ending around Labor Day.
Changes from last year include SoloMid instead of tarp, heavier but more comfortable pad, and the Marmot Mica instead of my Houdini and plastic poncho . . . also added the z-packs pants . . . everything else is about the same.Apr 9, 2013 at 4:04 pm #1974589
and here is the general plan . . . this is about the same as previous years . . . maybe zero day at VVR or MTR, but about 12-13 days hiking . . .Apr 11, 2013 at 2:46 pm #1975420
I'm curious about what you are carrying in Misc Items, Ziploc 3 (first aid, repair, emergency) at 1.2oz?Apr 11, 2013 at 3:36 pm #1975439
Cuben Fiber tape
Needle, thread, and safety pin
Therm-a-rest repair kit
. . . also have some duct tape on my trekking poleApr 22, 2013 at 11:21 am #1979383
Can you really get by on 16 ounces of food per day? I'd be starved unless you have some very calorie dense per pound food that you carry.Apr 22, 2013 at 11:54 am #1979399
@servingkoLocale: Intermountain West
16 oz is what I take and about 2k calories per day. For a 14 day JMT I would be getting hungry about day 7 or 8 and mileage may start to suffer a bit.
I went two weeks on the PCT eating nothing but Kendal Mint cakes, beef jerky, and Hersey Tropical bars due to a mixup with my food box. Not the best diet but I was thirty years younger then and much more resilient.
Apart from the jerky, how many have had the mint cakes or tropical bars? Unfortunately, I actually do know what a marmot tastes like….along with some other easily dispatched game. I would have paid dearly for some seasoning.Apr 22, 2013 at 4:18 pm #1979490
"how many have had the mint cakes or tropical bars?"
That's a blast from the past. I remember tropical chocolate bars, from back in the early 70's maybe?Apr 22, 2013 at 4:49 pm #1979500
I remember seeing Tropical Chocolate on the store shelves into the 1980's.
I keep looking for a suitable substitute now. There is lots of dark chocolate available, but it all seems to melt on a warm day.
–B.G.–Apr 22, 2013 at 7:13 pm #1979560
Did a similar itinerary two weeks later in 2009. I would bring a warmer sleeping bag or quilt unless you are a warm sleeper. Whitney summit will be a cold night. I'll be there at the same time as you this year and I'm bring a 20F quilt.will be overkill at lower elev. but not for higher camps.
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