Finally arrived today. 8.1 oz w/o stuff sack. Need go go out and fire it up.
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Backcountry Boiler
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Nice. Please tell us your experience when you've fired it up.
Marc, mine arrived also. it weighs 237.9 grams/ 8.39 oz as you have it pictured.
I empathize with Devin about the delays. Its hard to get things to move when they are out of you control.
It looks to be worth the wait/weight (both of them)
Glad to see some are showing up. I am still waiting but won't be looking to use it until next summer.
Hi Marc,
I was just curious why you chose this type of a "stove" as opposed to something lighter and maybe even more versatile? Was it because you won't have to carry around fuel?
Thanks,
Erik
Dang pretty. Still awaiting mine…
Erik, the short answer to your question: I thought it was a cool idea and wanted to help Devin out (besides wanting to test it out for myself).
The long answer can be found in this and many other threads:
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=7456
Similar to a Kelly Kettle but Lighter probably. and is capped so you can use it as a bottle.. that is a nice touch.
Oh, that is sweet.
Similar to a Kelly Kettle but Lighter probably
No “probably” about it. It is WAY lighter. Almost no comparison.
It’s times like this that I wish I lived in a wet region not in dry So. Calif. with so many fire restrictions.
Still waiting myself.
waiting also…
1 pint Aluminum Kelley Kettle is 13.3 oz including bag without base (which is unnecesary)
looks very nice. I#m still waitin for mine. F*cking USPS is not in position to ship it to Germany. They are so slow
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1 pint Aluminum Kelley Kettle is 13.3 oz including bag without base (which is unnecesary)
Got mine too. Came in weighing 9.23 with the cover, and 8.15 without.
That’s a quarter pound difference. Pretty sweet if you ask me.
Erik Dietz wrote: > I was just curious why you chose this type of a “stove” as opposed to something lighter and maybe even more versatile? Was it because you won’t have to carry around fuel?
Erik,
Yes, that’s the general idea. A lot of gas stoves weigh less than 3 ounces. Why then carry a BCB which weighs three times more than the gas stove? Well, with a gas stove, you have to carry a steel canister. A 4oz net weight canister of fuel actually weighs around 7oz total weight if my memory is working today. Your little gas canister set up now weighs 10 oz vs. 9 oz for the BCB. Oh, and you did want to include a pot with your gas set up, right? Well there’s another, say, 4 oz. AND of course with your 4oz canister of fuel, you’ve got, what, 5 days of fuel? I guess you’d better pack a few extra canisters for your 2 week trip (or a bigger/heavier canister). With the BCB, you can stay out on the trail all summer — with nary an extra gram. It’s a pretty sweet set up if it’s allowed in your area.
I've had mine for a while now, and it works as advertised. Mind you, I had used a Kelly Kettle on and off for years, so the operation of this kit was hardly a novelty to me. If your style of cooking is simply boil water and rehydrate, then the Backcountry Boiler is certainly efficient. It boils water like stink! An added bonus of wood burning stoves/kettles, is that because you are never scrimping on fuel, there is a surplus of hot water in the campsite, and this can be nice.
Jim,
Question for you, and I am not trying to knock Devin's BCB, because I think the product and the story of how it came to market is amazing….
Why a BCB vs. a Bushbuddy & lightweight Pot/Mug?
The BCB is great at what it does…super efficient at boiling water.
However, something like the Bushbuddy is 5.5 oz + lightweight mug/pot (4.0-5.0 oz) puts it in the same weight class as the BCB and it offers the ability to do more than boil water.
Just curious to get your opinion.
Thanks.
-Tony
At least out west here, we would run into a problem making a fire to use this, so it would have a limited usage period. Would be nice for other times and where allowed at elevation.
Duane
Tony:
If you’re wanting to do more than boil water, then I would think that a Bush Buddy would make more sense than a Backcountry Boiler.
One thing that I didn’t mention in my earlier post is that a BCB can be used as a water bottle which saves some weight and bulk. Multiuse = good. :)
Wood stoves are the area that I am the least informed about. They’re heavily restricted here in Southern California. That said, there are a few other potential issues out there: speed, efficiency, and ease of use. The chimney design of the BCB is a proven design that has been out there for quite some time. I haven’t done the testing to know, but I wonder if the amount of wood used would be less with the Chimney (efficiency in other words), that wood might be easier to light, and that the Chimney style with its big surface area might heat water faster than an ordinary pot. Those are things my general knowledge of stoves suggest to me, but I have not done the testing to either prove or disprove them.
Jim,
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I agree with you that the duel usage is good too….as it always is UL Law. :)
Having used the Bushbuddy, I love it, but I think the BCB concept would transfer a lot more heat from the fire to the BCB to boil the water.
I saw a proto type in action at this year's BPLer's GGG at Henry Coe and was impressed wtih the design and workmanship.
Plus the BCB might be cleaners to carry in your pack.
The Bushbuddy can leave a lot of soot on the mug/cook pot.
Anyway, BCB is a very cool design and seems perfect for boil in a bag type of cooking where hot water is all that you need.
-Tony
I have been keeping my eye on these for myself as well as a possible group buy but it appears the group buy fizzled out. Anyway, now that I've decided to get one, the only site I can find is the old one that hasn't been updated since May. Am I missing something? Does anyone have a link for the next run or a stock item? Would appreciate it.
Hi, Tony,
Yeah, all that surface area, particularly with the way the air is going to be drawn up over that surface, has got to improve heating efficiency. Just how much improvement? Don’t know. I also think it’s going to be easier to get a fire going with the chimney effect. How much easier? Don’t know.
I’d love to do some testing on these, but since my blogging and testing efforts are entirely self funded, it may be some time before I get a chance to do that.
So many stoves; so little time. :)
I also like the BCB because the soot stays inside the chimney instead of accumulating on the outside of the pot.
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