Grand Canyon- Double Crossing aka “Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim”- BPL Group Run

Great pictures and descriptions, everyone. Looked like an awesome trip! If anyone is interested in the trans Zion run in say, later August or September, I would totally be down for joining you guys. It is an amazing trip across Zion and has more than a few calf-cramping, gut-busting portions. ;)

Thanks for the pic Eugene. That climb out was really great, it was good sharing it with you. Weather, views and the company made it one to remember for sure. My knee is feeling good, 3-5 mile runs are doable again finally. I'll be ready for May.

"That's the last time I'm sharing a tent with Adan. Lucky I didn't get herpes from him too."

Craig, Herpes symptoms can sometimes take a few weeks to surface.

Is it too early to start planning our fall get-together?

I vote for Trans-Zion. It'd be a nice time of year out there.

Too early?

I don't think so. October?

I'd consider it in October. Zion sounds cool, love the area.
Was thinking about heading out to NM for the Deadman 50, so I'd have to choose (couldn't afford both trips).
October would be best for me…I go August and September without a paycheck.

if it was early October, might be doable for me (later gets into the heart of hunting season here)

if we can't pull it off this fall, I say we definitely do it next spring

Mike

I could probably swing very-early October… I think a handful of us are tentatively running the Deadman Peaks 50 that Craig mentioned later that month.

im down for october, gimmi a location date n time n ill be there. I'll show up a day early to get in some rockclimbing if my BF can come, or someone else who climbs, to belay :)

Anyone without a National Park Annual Pass going to a national park in May? PM me if so. I'd thought I'd start with that offer here in the R2R2M thread and offer it to my betters first. -David

Its awesome to ready ya'lls reports. You guys finally inspired me to go running again. I hadn't been able to unitl maybe a month ago due to back to back injuries that took forever to heal. After that it was laziness.

I did about 20 minutes at a pretty good pace, distance unknown. I thought about going on but I decided to stop while I was feeling good to make sure I don't hurt anything.

Eugene that Crest fastpack idea sounds pretty cool!

>"I decided to stop while I was feeling good to make sure I don't hurt anything"

That was my thought process today in dropping, limbing, and bucking one – count 'em one – 40-foot spruce. There's always another day. Because there's always another tree in my yard.

^ David my "TSA" package arrived :)- thanks!

Mike

I can't think past Sep 7 right now (Wasatch).
but everyone keep making plans,
and I'll follow along in the background.

I can definitely commit to an October Zion trip. Perfect time of year for me. The earlier in the month the better I would think.

BB

I'm in the process of moving to PA so I'm not think past the next couple of months. Once I get up there, if I have a bit of spare time I will start running a few routes that I have scouted out. If my family has moved and settled down I would love to do this trip.

Brian said "I can definitely commit to an October Zion trip. Perfect time of year for me. The earlier in the month the better I would think."

that's the only time in October I'd have a chance to make it

Greg- good luck w/ the move! (moving is not fun- usually anyways :))

Mike

So my understanding is that the Trans Zion is ~48 miles. Anyone know the gain?
East-West? West-East? What are you thinking?

I'm totally stoked on this run and think I could swing early October if we did something similar to the R2R2R…Head out on a Thursday night (or Friday morn.), hang out Friday, run Saturday, head home Sunday…
I can typically make it to SW Utah in ~7.5 hours drive from home so traveling is no big deal.

Now I just have to get this ITB thing from the R2R2R under control. I'm still getting tightness at only 5K into an easy, flat road run. I've been stopping and walking home before the tightness turns to pain. Ice, roller, stretching post run. Better than two weeks ago, but progress has been slow/frustrating; especially because my knee feels perfectly normal doing everything BUT running.

Maybe we should be starting a trans Zion feeler thread here…

Craig – are you usung a roller or other massage techniques on your ITB ?

I'm running Deadman Peaks 50 on Oct. 20, so if possible, the very first week in October would be about as close a date as I feel comfortable committing to right now.

Would the very last week in September be a possibility?

On topic, Buzz Burrell recently had to bail on his Trans-Zion due to hydration problems:

http://blog.ultimatedirection.com/trans-zion-how-not-to-hydrate/#more-176

either last week of September or first week of October is good by me :)

I was thinking starting west (Lee's Pass) and ending east, gives you the option of bailing at the Grotto, total distance is 47.3 miles (bailing at the Grotto makes it ~ 36 miles)

elevation gain roughly 4000', elevation loss ~ 4000', no where near as dramatic climbs (or descents) as the GC though

Yeah Art, roller, ice, hot showers followed by stretching…that's it so far. This regimen worked for a serious case in my other knee about 6 years ago, so I'm hoping this time isn't as bad.

Just came in from an easy 5K, ~27 minutes, all pretty flat. No pain at all, just the begins of a little tightness in the last half mile. I'm hoping I can get it under control soon.

As for Zion, I could swing late September if that's best. Last weekend of September or first of October? What's everyone thinking?

Where can you stay/camp for this run? Is the main park out of the way from the start/finish?

EDIT: Mikes plan sounds good to me….

….Had a vision for some Trans Zion medals on my run just now. Let's just say heavy metal themed metallic gunmetal medallions, complete with lightning bolts and thick stainless steel neck chains.

We gotta do it now!

now I'm definitely in………. sipping out of my R2R2R mug w/ some heavy metal hanging around the neck- oh yeah!

R2R2R was only two weeks ago.

Do we forget pain that quickly?

hey Wisner, you were talking more more more as soon as you were back up with a beer in your belly!