What winter jacket needed when paired with nano puff

Chris: That makes sense.

I must sleep abnormally warm I'm 5,8 134lbs and 4% body fat and im warm in a bag en rated at 35 down to high 20s with just a baselayer

If you're truly 4% bodyfat (as measured by some accurate method), you should seek medical help immediately.

That picture was on a lake, ice fishing. Sat on a piece of log for several hours in 0F weather.

I'm really not disagreeing with you though. Better to be conservative. I arrived at that combo by bringing a lot more stuff originally, and gradually subtracting over the years until I found exactly what I needed to be comfortable in a variety of situations. I'd sure recommend that anyone who was going to be out in the winter do just that. You don't want to bet your life on an untested winter setup.

Congrats on the awesome weightloss by the way. If I could drop 5 lb, Ild happily carry a heavier coat.

Thanks for the clarification on the photo. :-)

I'd happily add a little fat back to my body to avoid carrying extra clothing, and have been trying to do so for at least a year. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to do it in a healthy manner. I could sit around and eat pizza all day for a few months, but I don't want it that bad.

Take a long hard look at Feathered Friends jackets. For $260 you can get the Helios (hooded or not), with 8oz. of fill, 16oz. total weight and an Epic treated waterproof shell fabric. They have five options for shell fabrics, custom sizes, a new custom woman's jacket, custom colors, etc….

http://featheredfriends.com/Picasso/Garments/Lt/Helios.html

I'll toss in another vote for the Alpine Light Parka. It's a great layering piece, though you'll have to figure out (cautiously) what you need to layer it with for a particular temp range.

Last winter I was using it with a Thermawrap jacket and medium weight baselayer at around 0 degrees, but that probably wouldn't work for everyone. I've been pleased with it's versatility though, since I can wear it on its own in warmer temps, or pick how many layers I need to suit the conditions.

-David

young people generally needs less than old people

fat people tends to needs less than skinny people

people who spend a good deal of time outdoors in cooler environments tend to needs less than the person who goes out once a year in winter

men tend to need less than women

people who eat a lot of calories and fat on their trip will tend to need less than starving BPLers ;)

the only way is to find out what works for you

as to pairing a big puffy with a nano style jacket… thats what the guiding services have in their gear list for winter/higher altitude trips … of course they are being conservative

eric said "as to pairing a big puffy with a nano style jacket… thats what the guiding services have in their gear list for winter/higher altitude trips … of course they are being conservative"

what the heck would those guys know about staying warm in a harsh environ :)

I would get a bigger puffy. Buy a Rab Infinity or Neutrino Endurance jacket. I have a Neutrino and it's 21 ounces on the dot for a size large. 8.5oz of 850 fill down combined with a nearly waterproof fabric. The Neutrino Endurance is on sale for $280 at campsaver if you're interested. Throw this over a base layer and maybe your Nano Puff and you'll be comfortable below 0, in my opinion.

I snow camped this year in February on a night that got down to 7ºF and was comfortable sitting outside and chatting with an R1 Hoody, Nanopuff, and Alpine Light Parka, but I'm 6', 195lbs and run warm. It's a very complimentary set up because of the options you have, and I like the safety net of carrying some synthetic insulation.