Oct 2, 2011 at 12:29 pm #1280070
Hey everyone – Im looking for a dog bed that my lab can carry. I know ruff wear makes a 14ounce bed that packs down to a 12×5, but its a little on the pricey side. I was also thinking about getting a gossamer gear thin light pad and cut it down, but I'm afraid it might not fit in his pack when rolled (it may, I'm not sure. I haven't received the pack yet).
Any suggestions? Anyone hike with their 4 legged buds? hes an 80 lb lab so something around 30 long and 25 wide.
Thanks everyoneOct 2, 2011 at 12:32 pm #1785814
Tipi WalterBPL Member
Not to rain on your thought-train, but carrying a dog bed never was on my list to bring when I backpacked with my dog. He always found a place to curl up and sleep on his own—and not inside the tent. They evolved outdoors for the last tens of millions of years.Oct 2, 2011 at 12:32 pm #1785815
My 4 legged friends are sleeping on a piece of closed cell foam mattress. I'm sitting on it during the day if the ground is too wet.Oct 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm #1785817
I enjoy having my dog next to me in my tent though. I just think that having a little insulation on cold nights and a "spot" is good. Especially if hes carrying it himself. I'm sure he would be happy either way.
I like the idea of using a pad as a seat during the day and his bed at night. Thanks antti. Do you put yours in his pack? i see his/her picture there. Definitely carrying its own weight haha.Oct 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm #1785820
The pad is there if there is space (cheap and thin 3mm CCF is enough for this use). In the pic she was carrying a raincoat, food cup, lots of kibble and oil for 12 day unsupported trip – It was in the beginning so I had to carry the pad myself since there was no space for it. I use the handle on top of her pack if we need to cross deeper streams or rivers so I do not want to attach the pad on the outside.
And yes, I also use the dog as a part of my sleeping setup so no outside sleeps for her :)Oct 2, 2011 at 1:56 pm #1785833
@thomdarrahLocale: Southern OregonOct 2, 2011 at 2:14 pm #1785839
Jake DBPL Member
Iditarod dogs sleep on a small bed of straw on snow.
if yours is sleeping inside i doubt you need much. maybe a sheet of tyvek to protect the floor. outside push a pile of leaves into a spot and they will be perfectly happy.
in the house my dogs are free to sleep where they want and half of the time they are plonked down on hardwood floor.
no reason to make the poor dog carry something they don't need.Oct 2, 2011 at 2:28 pm #1785841
Ken T.BPL Member
I take a section of Ridgerest. I use it to sit on, but he does seem to appreciate some padding. He'll get on my pad if his is not inside. I do use him as a external heat source when sleeping. Luckily he is very still through the night.Oct 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm #1785845
Depends a lot on the dog. Some dogs don't really need much.
I've got great danes, and they really really like to have some cushion, since they've got big joints, and 150lbs of weight to support. I imagine they're about as comfortable without a pad as we are. Also my male gets really cold, and likes to be fully covered up during the winter.
I strap a rolled up ~30" long section of walmart blue ccf foam ($6 a roll?) to the top of his dog pack, or to my pack, and it works great for him. I butt it to the side of my pad, and he'll either share my quilt, or I bring a small one that I made for him, which is a flat square panel with a draw cord that runs down all sides, so I can kind of cinch it up for him. It works ok, but I think I'm going to build him one that's secured around 3 sides of the pad, with one end open, which I think will work better.
If anybody wants me to make them something like this, feel free to contact me.Oct 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm #1785846
I understand that he doesn't HAVE to have a bed for survival here, and that if I piled up a bunch of leaves that would do the trick, but I'm looking for recommendations or experiences with mats. I think the few ounces that a mat will weigh is irrelevant to a place that is "his" if he wants it.
My dog naps on the tile floor too. But his bed is his go to spot. right next to my bed.
But thanks for the input regardless – its just that I'm looking for what others have used as beds. (other than straw, pine needles, leaves or nothing)Oct 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm #1785850
Awesome – $6 a roll? is that in the camping section in walmart? Ill look into that for sure. And I may have to get back in contact with you later on for that quilt. My dog has some pins in his leg so I'm waiting to see how the deep cold affect him.Oct 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm #1785851
Ken T.BPL Member
Just get some closed cell foam pad cut to size. He'll appreciate it and it is not a burden for you to carry it for him.Oct 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm #1785852
Yep camping section. I've seen them as high as $10 a roll, depending on the store, but never higher personally. ;)
I use that stuff for many many things.Oct 2, 2011 at 3:49 pm #1785860
That's great. I'm going to make a run to Walmart tomorrow and pick up a roll of that and a Campbells heat and eat soup so can see how it works as an insulated coffee mug (saw this in another thread, pretty excited)
Thanks to everyone that responded.Oct 2, 2011 at 4:31 pm #1785866
Mary DBPL Member
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Closed cell foam here, too. My dog is getting old and needs the insulation and some padding underneath. Besides, he sleeps indoors on a nice cushy bed at home.
I've tried the GG Thinlight, but it is too flexible and wads up too easily. By the time my dog has changed position several times during the night (each time he turns around three times before lying down; I call him my Robert Benchley dog), the pad is wadded up in the corner of the tent. Its only advantage is that it can be rolled or folded tightly to fit into one of the bags of his pack.
I have used a blue foam pad cut to 20" x 30". (Dog is a 75-lb. mostly Lab, but he sleeps curled up in a ball, nose to tail.) More recently, I got a Gossamer Gear torso-length Nightlight pad at the same time I ordered some other stuff from GG. The one I got was the lighter type GG had for a while, weighing almost an ounce less. The current Nightlight, though, is about the same weight as the blue foam. In both cases, I folded it in thirds and carried it in the pad pocket of my pack. Since I use an insulated air pad, either the blue foam or Nightlight work a lot better in my pack to provide lots more support and padding for my back. I could roll it up and tie it to the top of my dog's pack, but it would keep getting caught on brush.
The last trip I was on, though, the dog moved to the foot of my grandaughter's sleeping bag. She has an adult-size REI SubKilo (on sale cheap, and at age 9 she's obviously not going to shrink in the future!). He loved the unused lower part of the bag and she enjoyed her extra-warm feet! Fortunately the shell material of the SubKilo is considerably less fragile than the shell of my WM bag!Oct 2, 2011 at 5:26 pm #1785883
Haha. I bet your dog is a great foot warmer.
Thanks for the info. Especially about the thinlight. I like that it can be folded tightly, but at the same time my dog likes to change positions frequently too. Wadding up wouldn't be good.
I was looking into the nightlight pad as well, but you say its about the same weight as a blue foam pad? I might have to pass on that for the $$.Oct 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm #1785917
@davidadairLocale: West Dakota
Thermarest makes a XS inflatable pad 20"x36" X 1" at 8oz (R=2.2).Oct 2, 2011 at 7:45 pm #1785942
Morgan RucksBPL Member
@ Javan Dempsey
I would be interested in you making me a dog sleeping bag. currently my pooch sleeps in a older synthetic vest or curled up in my sleeping bag , but something purpose built would be lighter and more effective. My dog Benny gets cold pretty easily he is a goldendoodle with no undercoat who only weighs 25 pounds and doesn't have much body fat.
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rucksmtr at msn dot comOct 2, 2011 at 8:25 pm #1785957
My siberian husky is always with me on the trail. Unless it is well below freezing I don't usually bother with a bed for her as she will rarely use it. She always uses it in the winter though. Yes, dogs evolved outside and many breeds will be just fine without one. But, I think of it as if I were going to be not using a sleeping pad/underquilt. Yes, I could probably survive but it wouldnt be as comfortable as possible. I try to keep her comfort in mind just as much as I do mine and so in the winter I always carry a bed for her.
I used to just bring a piece of ccf and a poncho liner for her to sleep on, which worked very well.
I now use the REI dog dream bed, they had themm on clearance a while back and I picked one up for a good price. It's basically a thermarest prolite sit pad in black with a cordura/fleece cover. Provides a little more insulation and packs much smaller. I aso use it as a sit pad when shes not sleeping on it.Oct 2, 2011 at 8:33 pm #1785961
I use a thermarest z-lite, the yellow one that folds like an accordion. You can either cut a few portions off a full length pad, or buy the smaller one that is intended as a seat. It is perfect for my dog.Oct 3, 2011 at 8:19 am #1786069
Randy NelsonBPL Member
I use a Z-lite cut down to 7 panels. The dogs will always curl up on it instead of dirt so they must like it. The only negative is I usually carry it as it hangs off the back of their packs and flaps around when they are walking, which I find annoying. Here's a pic from Saturday night. It was 25 when I checked in the morning.Oct 3, 2011 at 11:53 am #1786147
I cut a deal with my dog(s) that I carry their mat a 22"x36" CCF pad @ 5oz and I stick a few odds and ends in their pack. It just fits better on my pack and also protects my fishing rod. Please dont tell them that as I dont want to have to cut another deal.Oct 3, 2011 at 12:40 pm #1786160
Randy NelsonBPL Member
"I cut a deal with my dog(s) that I carry their mat a 22"x36" CCF pad @ 5oz and I stick a few odds and ends in their pack. It just fits better on my pack and also protects my fishing rod. Please dont tell them that as I dont want to have to cut another deal."
Me too. And to make sure that the packs stay balanced I use factory sealed 12 oz cylinders, 1 in each pack. Those are about the only consumables that don't get shared with the dog. Besides chocolate, of course.Oct 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm #1786216
ahh – that's it. A compromise for trading items to carry. That takes care of the size issue. Haha I like it thanks.Oct 3, 2011 at 5:30 pm #1786271
@davidadairLocale: West Dakota
"And to make sure that the packs stay balanced I use factory sealed 12 oz cylinders"
Ha, I've never bothered to spend the money for a dog pack- it always seemed like more bother than it was worth-but you're making me see the lite.
btw I enjoy the shelter picture. My photos of camp always bring back a lot of memories if I can just remember to take them. Thanks.
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