Sep 5, 2011 at 9:10 am #1278938
It means yr not using is enough or going hard enough ;)
Ive destroyed packs, pants, ropes, torn jackets this year And im a lazy bum
Gear is something you expend for the experience
All shiny new gear means …
;)Sep 5, 2011 at 9:12 am #1776185
Pretty easy to do with UL gear.
I still have packs that have been through hell and back and aren't trashed. Why so unkind to your nice gear?Sep 5, 2011 at 9:17 am #1776187
Offwidth n chimneys will do that
So will climbing on granite 4-5 days a week =P
Dont worry about silnylon this, cuben that … Just jump on that overgrown trail and get chased by that friendly bear that just wants to give ya lotso hugs ;)Sep 5, 2011 at 9:37 am #1776191
Sandstone is worse than granite – no foregiveness.Sep 5, 2011 at 4:52 pm #1776277
It means that you haven't learned the value in properly maintaining your equipment.
Ive destroyed packs, pants, ropes, torn jackets this year And im a lazy bum – lazy, as in I dont give a rat's ass about any of my gear.
Beginner Gear is something you expend for the experience, And then after that you buy something nice that will last for as long as possible
All shiny new gear means … you are being a good consumer.
>:|Sep 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm #1776280
@rcowmanLocale: Canadian Rockies
My Friends that are guide in Yamnuska and ACMG seem to not destroy their gear every season. some guys have the same Gamma MX and Alpha shell for like 3 seasons of ice and rock climbing almost everyday of the week….
maybe you shoudn't buy disposable gear or think expensive means yuppieSep 5, 2011 at 5:11 pm #1776285
drowning in spamMember
You're the Kifaru guy right? I bet Dan McHale wouldn't make this complaint about his packs.
That's in jest, but seriously, you're either using the wrong gear or abusing your gear.Sep 5, 2011 at 5:13 pm #1776286
Ken T.BPL Member
you understand the value of a dollar…Sep 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm #1776292
Brian CampriniBPL Member
@bcampriniLocale: Southern Appalachians
I enjoy noticing the subtle changes in my dyneema McHale. It's like old jeans that get softer but don't degrade at all.
I'm with you on wearing stuff out. It's tough to do these days with new new shiny stuff so easy to grab. Something we should all consider before reaching.Sep 5, 2011 at 5:41 pm #1776295
You're the Kifaru guy right?
You talking to me?Sep 5, 2011 at 6:11 pm #1776309
perhaps we just aren't EXTREME and GOING HARD ENOUGH to understand the OP.Sep 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm #1776333
"Ive destroyed packs, pants, ropes, torn jackets this year And im a lazy bum"
Uh…make that lazy, careless bum?
Upon further consideration, make that lazy, careless, Yuppie bum. Anybody who burns thru gear at that rate and lives to tell the story either has a regular high paying job or a rich girl friend, or both, and in either case drives a BMW or other status car appropriate to their station in life. Eric, you had me fooled for a while with all your Yuppie bashing. Methinks the closet Yuppie doth protest too much. ;-)Sep 5, 2011 at 7:04 pm #1776336
"Sandstone is worse than granite – no foregiveness."
They're all pretty unforgiving if you augur in-the ultimate gear trashing experience for those who have tried everything else to remove the bright shiny veneer of their new gear and still feel unfulfilled.Sep 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm #1776345
David DrakeBPL Member
@daviddrakeLocale: North Idaho
…you may be reading BackpackingLight, rather than ClimbingCareless.Sep 5, 2011 at 7:37 pm #1776346
"They're all pretty unforgiving if you augur in-the ultimate gear trashing experience for those who have tried everything else to remove the bright shiny veneer of their new gear and still feel unfulfilled."
Wouldn't it just be easier to roll around in some mud?Sep 5, 2011 at 7:52 pm #1776352
W I S N E R !BPL Member
Maybe ALex Honnold isn't going hard enough.
Behold: clean pants and clean shirt with no holes, nice clean pack, even clean shaven with a fresh haircut….Sep 5, 2011 at 8:18 pm #1776356
i wonder if he shredded his "dead bird" or his "patagucci" doing all that extreme extreme-stuff!Sep 5, 2011 at 8:26 pm #1776362
spelt with a tBPL Member
@speltLocale: SW/C PA
it means you can't afford to replace it every six months. Must be nice to be loaded.Sep 5, 2011 at 9:25 pm #1776381
Eugene SmithBPL Member
@eugeneiusLocale: Nuevo Mexico
Eric, you're so gnar, Arcteryx should be throwing cash before your feet. ;-p
What a b00b.Sep 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm #1776386
You replace it when you wear it out … Seam gri and patch the hell out of it till then
Just use it and dont worry about that new shiny plasma to replace tht hydrogen
Its not like itll allow you to go faster or harder or longer …
Shiny gear sitting around rarely used doesnt do any good … As evidenced by gear swap …
Just expend it till it no longer works
Course sponsored climbers get shiny new gear in photos =P
nothing wrong with an epic every now and then … if yr trying new things or pushing yrself, eventually youll end up in one .. as long as everyone comes home with all their toes and fingers ;)Sep 5, 2011 at 11:29 pm #1776400
Mike WBPL Member
@skopeoLocale: British Columbia
…Sep 6, 2011 at 7:33 am #1776436
@benwoodLocale: flatlands of MO
are you drunk at the keyboard? seriously?Sep 6, 2011 at 12:00 pm #1776541
Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
"He who wears out the most gear wins."Sep 6, 2011 at 12:39 pm #1776556
@aaronmbLocale: Central Valley California
Well, I suppose it is easier to be lazy, trash gear, and find an excuse.
With this line of thinking, it's no wonder why I sometimes get smug comments on the trail like "Oh, look who's fresh out of REI," when I've probably been wearing most of my getup longer than the gear-trashing smugger.
My gear still looks respectable, it still works perfectly, and I still have that money burning a hole in my pocket: seems like a no-brainer win/win for me. But that's just me. My values. My Hike. It takes a little effort but the reward to me seems more gratifying than having a disposable attitude that adds to the landfills and empties my pocketbook.Sep 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm #1776638
"Wouldn't it just be easier to roll around in some mud?"
Yeah, but then when he went home, mommy would give him a scolding and make him run all that expensive gear through the washing machine, which would make it look all shiny new again. Plus she'd probably suspend his allowance and car privileges for a week. Bwaahaahaa…
Better to augur in and play the sympathy angle. ;)
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