The other weight of gear aka. I have too much gear!

[Claudio Zanoni]

Hi All,

I have too much gear! I want to cut down to a minimalistic gear closet serving for:

– 3 season trips (hiking, paragliding, motorbike)
– occasional winter overnighters

I would appreciate if you could check my below gearlist and help me identify possibilities to cut down (weight in g):

Model Category Weight get rid of
Backpack GoLite Jam2 Carry 840
Backpack Puma (30l) Carry 463 ?
Bottle insulation 0.5l Carry 323 no
Bottle PET 0,75l Carry 28 no
Compressionbag big Carry 61 ?
Compressionbag small Carry 53 ?
Lock airportsafe Carry 28 no
Trashbag 35l Carry 26 no
Ziploc small Carry 8 no
Base layer bottom Cloths 190 no
Base layer top Cloths 229 no
Boxershorts Cotton Cloths 75 no
Cap Fleece Mammut Cloths 73 no
Gloves Röckl Cloths 114 replace
Jacket (Insul. 3season) Cloths 800 no
Jacket Rain wind Cloths 364 no
Pants (Rain/Wind) Cloths 343 no
Pullover Häglofs Cloths 385 maybe
Shoes Inov8 ROCLITE 295 Cloths 295 no
Shoes, Asics Jogging Cloths 700 no
Shoes, Boots, Lowa GTX Cloths 1600 maybe
Socks Cotton Cloths 32 no
Socks Winter Smartwool Cloths 102 no
Baby wipes 10 pieces Hygiene 14 ?
Container 30ml Hygiene 10 ?
Traveltowel Eagle Creek Hygiene 194 ?
Traveltowl MSR Hygiene 188 ?
Canister 100g empty Kitchen 89 no
Container Alcohol Kitchen 20 no
Frypan non-stick MSR Kitchen 162 yes
Ingnitor steel Primus Kitchen 47 yes
Jetboil complete Kitchen 543 ?
Lighter mini, Bic Kitchen 12 no
Lighter, normal Kitchen 14 no
Pot BPL 1000ml Kitchen 88
Potset MSR 1.5l & 2l Kitchen 526 replace
Spork Kitchen 13 no
Stove Alcohol MYOG Kitchen 30 no
Stove Monatauk Gnat Kitchen 48 no
Stove Optimus Crux Kitchen 87 sell
Stove white gas,Omifuel Kitchen 429 yes
Stove white gas, pump Kitchen 106 yes
Stove windeflector MYOG Kitchen 7 no
Water Anti-Chlor MP l? Kitchen 18 ?
Water Conservation 25l Kitchen 2 ?
Water decontamin.. 25l Kitchen 3 ?
Winddeflector MSR Kitchen 82 yes
Headlamp Petzl eLite Other 28 ?
Headlamp Tikka Plus Other 78 ?
Swiss Army Knive mini Other 21 no
Swiss Army Knive small Other 59 no
Toothbrush normal Other 15 no
Toothbrush Travel Other 13 no
Toothpaste 15ml Other 21 no
Towel small, microfiber Other 38 no
Earplugs Sleep 1 no
Isomat Exped Downmat 7 Sleep 957 no
Isomat Chair Kit Sleep 548 no
Isomat TAR Stufsac Sleep 25 ?
Isomat TAR Prolite Sleep 575 no
Pegs Exped DAC Sleep 13 no
Sleeping bag 0C Sleep 680 no
Sleeping bag -15C Sleep 2778 no
Tarp SpinnTwinn Sleep 255 no
Tarp Nordisk PU 3x3m Sleep 618 no
Tent (Pop-up) Sleep 3500 no
Trekkingpoles Alpkit Sleep 220 no

[Claudio Zanoni]

no responses so far… maybe this will be more appealing with a different layout. I'd really appreciate if you could shorty browse throug and let me know whehter you spot double items serving the same purpose and/or unnecessary items:

Packing

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Backpack GoLite Jam2 840g
Backpack Puma (30l) 463g
Bottle insulation 0.5l, 323g
Bottle PET 0,75l, 28g
Compressionbag big 61g
Compressionbag small 53g
Lock airportsafe 28g
Trashbag 35l 26g
Ziploc small 8g

Cloths

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Base layer bottom 190g
Base layer top 229g
Boxershorts Cotton 75g
Cap Fleece Mammut 73g
Gloves Röckl 114g
Jacket (Insul. 3season) 800g
Jacket Rain wind 364g
Pants (Rain/Wind) 343g
Pullover Häglofs 385g
Shoes Inov8 ROCLITE 295 295g
Shoes, Asics Jogging 700g
Shoes, Boots, Lowa GTX 1600g
Socks Cotton 32g
Socks Winter Smartwool 102g

Sleep/Shelter

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Isomat Exped Downmat 7 957g
Isomat Chair Kit 548g
Isomat TAR Stufsac 25g
Isomat TAR Prolite 575g
Pegs Exped DAC 13g/peg
Sleeping bag 0C 680g
Sleeping bag -15C 2778g
Tarp SpinnTwinn 255g
Tarp Nordisk PU 3x3m 618g
Tent (Pop-up) 3500g
Trekkingpoles Alpkit 220g

Kitchen

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Canister 100g empty 89g
Container Alcohol 20g
Frypan non-stick MSR 162g
Ingnitor steel Primus 47g
Jetboil complete 543g
Lighter mini, Bic 12g
Lighter, normal 14g
Pot BPL 1000ml 88g
Potset MSR 1.5l & 2l 526g
Spork 13g
Stove Alcohol MYOG 30g
Stove Monatauk Gnat 48g
Stove Optimus Crux 87g
Stove white gas,Omifuel 429g
Stove white gas, pump 106g
Stove windeflector MYOG 7g
Water Anti-Chlor MP 18g
Water Conservation 25l 2g
Water decontamin.. 25l 3g
Winddeflector MSR 82g

Hygiene

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Baby wipes 10 pieces 14g
Container 30ml 10g
Traveltowel Eagle Creek 194g
Traveltowl MSR 188g

Other

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Headlamp Petzl eLite 28g
Headlamp Tikka Plus 78g
Swiss Army Knive mini 21g
Swiss Army Knive small 59g
Toothbrush normal 15g
Toothbrush Travel 13g
Toothpaste 15ml 21g
Towel small, microfiber 38g
Earplugs 1g

[Ken Thompson]

Oops. Double post.

[Ken Thompson]

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=31018&skip_to_post=262364#262364

Since you are not planning on taking all of your items listed with you on a trip we could use some more details from you.

[Mike Clelland]

Not to state the obvious, but just go down the weight side of the list and TAKE ONLY THE ABSOLUTELY LIGHTEST OTION.

And then leave behind anything that is NOT ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL!

Do that, and you're done.

_______________________________

Packing

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Backpack GoLite Jam2 840g — [ I like this pack, but there are lighter options ]
Backpack Puma (30l) 463g

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[ this is lighter, so take this ]
Bottle insulation 0.5l, 323g

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NIX!
Bottle PET 0,75l, 28g — [ what is this??? ]
Compressionbag big 61g

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NIX!
Compressionbag small 53g

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NIX!
Lock airportsafe 28g

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NIX!
Trashbag 35l 26g — [ what is this for? ]
Ziploc small 8g — [ what is this for? ]

Sleep/Shelter

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Isomat Exped Downmat 7 957g

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NIX!
Isomat Chair Kit 548g

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NIX!
Isomat TAR Stufsac 25g

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NIX!
Sleeping bag 0C 680g

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NIX!
Tarp Nordisk PU 3x3m 618g

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NIX!
Tent (Pop-up) 3500g

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NIX!
Trekkingpoles Alpkit 220g — [ what is this for, do you need these? ]

Sleeping bag -15C 2778g
Tarp SpinnTwinn 255g
Isomat TAR Prolite 575g
Pegs Exped DAC 13g/peg — [ too many, subtract a few ]

Kitchen

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Canister 100g empty 89g

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NIX!
Frypan non-stick MSR 162g

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NIX!
Ingnitor steel Primus 47g

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NIX!
Jetboil complete 543g

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NIX!
Lighter, normal 14g

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NIX!
Potset MSR 1.5l & 2l 526g

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NIX!
Winddeflector MSR 82g

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NIX!
Stove Monatauk Gnat 48g

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NIX!
Stove Optimus Crux 87g

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NIX!
Stove white gas,Omifuel 429g

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NIX!
Stove white gas, pump 106g

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NIX!
Water Anti-Chlor MP 18g — [ what is this??? ]
Water Conservation 25l 2g — [ what is this??? ]
Water decontamin.. 25l 3g — [ what is this??? ]

Container Alcohol 20g
Lighter mini, Bic 12g
Stove windeflector MYOG 7g
Spork 13g
Stove Alcohol MYOG 30g
Pot BPL 1000ml 88g

Hygiene

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Baby wipes 10 pieces 14g

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NIX!
Container 30ml 10g

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NIX!
Traveltowel Eagle Creek 194g

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NIX!
Traveltowl MSR 188g

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NIX!
—- Just take soap and a trimmed down bandana —-

Other

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Headlamp Tikka Plus 78g

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NIX!
Swiss Army Knive mini 21g

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NIX!
Swiss Army Knive small 59g

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NIX!
Toothbrush normal 15g

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NIX!
Towel small, microfiber 38g

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NIX!
Earplugs 1g

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NIX!

Toothbrush Travel 13g
Toothpaste 15ml 21g
Headlamp Petzl eLite 28g

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Clothes
(I can't really comment, because I don't know if this is clothes WORN or clothes CARRIED in your backpack)

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Base layer bottom 190g
Base layer top 229g
Boxershorts Cotton 75g
Cap Fleece Mammut 73g
Gloves Röckl 114g
Jacket (Insul. 3season) 800g
Jacket Rain wind 364g
Pants (Rain/Wind) 343g
Pullover Häglofs 385g
Shoes Inov8 ROCLITE 295 295g

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[ this is lighter, so take this ]
Shoes, Asics Jogging 700g

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NIX!
Shoes, Boots, Lowa GTX 1600g

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NIX!
Socks Cotton 32g

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NIX!
Socks Winter Smartwool 102g

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NIX! (find somethin lighter!)

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MISSING:
– soap
– sunblock
– tiny first aid kit
– tiny repair items

[Claudio Zanoni]

Thanks for the help so far! (it's good to get that kick in the A**) I really feel that I am hoarding a lot of gear I don't need/use…

The requested details:

1 ) Are you SOLO camping, or part of a TEAM?
50% alone
50% with 1 partner

2 ) WHERE will you be camping?
90% Switzerland (Alpine to mid-Alpine terrain) usually near lakes, rivers
10% Italy, France, Spain… mid-Alpine down to sea level

3 ) What type of WEATHER do you expect?
90% good weather (little rain, wind, snow, storms, etc.)
10% bad weather on longer trips (rain, wind, snow, storms, etc.)

4 ) How LONG is your proposed trip?
90% overnighters (3 season & winter)
10% multi day trips up to 14 days (3 season only)

What gear list would you set together for:
– 3 season
– winter

All items that would not appear in either of these lists I could then eliminate from the gear closet and thereby have just the items I need.

[Michael Bachman]

You should use a spreadsheet. Columns and weight are easy to do and it's easier on the eyes.

Cheers~!

[Claudio Zanoni]

ok, so a lot of stuff is on internet auction now… I made a few decision and my gear closet is getting slimmer and slimmer… at the same time I have also ordered replacements… I already like the result a lot…

I will post a revised gear closet list in a bit… to get some feedback for further reductions possibilities…

[Claudio Zanoni]

The kitchen now reads:
– evernew 0.9l pot (about 100g, I think, haven't weighed it yet)
– cat stove (7g)
– pot cozy (20g)
– Spork (7g)
– Bic lighter

and that's it….

The next area I am working on is the clothing. Too much in my closet and I carry too much. Just bought some long hiking pants that weight 227g and are really comfy. Thinking about ditching the rain pants for overnighters….. maybe build a rain skirt… let's see…

[Mike Clelland]

Add a wind screen to that stove, a folded section of kitchen aluminium foil is the lightest.

[Claudio Zanoni]

Clothing worn

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Boxershorts Cotton, 75g
Socks sythetic, 32g
Pants sythetic, 272g
Base layer top, wool, 229g
Fleece with hood, thin, ca. 400g
Shoes Inov8 ROCLITE, 590g

Clothing carried

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Base layer bottom Icebreaker, 190g
Jacket (Rain/Wind) Marmot Paclite, 364g
Pants (Rain/Wind) Marmot Paclite, 343g
Gloves, ca. 200g

Packing

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Backpack GoLite Jam2, trimmed, ca. 570g
Trashbag 60l, 50g
Stuff sack (Cook gear), 8g

Cook gear

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– evernew 0.9l pot, ca. 100g (yet to be weighed)
– cat stove, 7g
– windscreen, 8g
– pot cozy, 20g
– Spork 7g
– Bic lighter, ca. 8g

Shelter

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Tarp Gossamer Gear SpinnTwinn, 255g
Trekkingpoles Alpkit, 440g
Pegs Exped DAC, 13g/peg

Sleep

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Sleeping bag All Black 0C, 680g
Isomat Thermarest Prolite, 575g

Essentials

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Water bottle 0.75l, 28g
Water bottle 0.75l, 28g
Phone Nokia, 75g
Wallet, 141g
Digicam Sony, 147g
Headlamp Mammut S-Flex, 47g

Dinky Stuff

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Water treatment purification (1 tab / L), 3g
Water treatment conservation (1 tab / L), 2g
Water treatment Anti-Chlor (3 drops / L), 18g
Toothbrush Travel, 13g
Toothpaste, repackaged, 10g
Soap, repackaged, 5g
Swiss Army Knife mini, 21g
Vaseline, repackaged, 6g
Sunscreen, repackaged, 15g
ziploc FREEZER bag, 8g
Battery AA, 20g
Earplugs, 1g

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