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PostedMar 19, 2011 at 7:25 pm

I have had 4 burns on mine so far. The first burn is the only one with some slight stickage. Whatever caused the initial sticking (burning of residual lube, anodizing residue or whatever) once it has been seasoned like cast iron, I haven't noticed any sticking.

There is no risk of tipping if the stove is placed on a level / stable surface. And after the first couple of burns, which you should do at home to get familiar with the product, there shouldn't be any sticking. That is my experience so far and it is only 4 uses, but I'm pretty confident it isn't going to be a problem. And certainly not any more of an issue than getting a mug out of a Caldera Cone with the stove or fire still burning…

Mike

Randy Nelson BPL Member
PostedMar 19, 2011 at 8:08 pm

I have a Ti-Tri which I love but I still the Kettle is pretty cool and will be picking one up in the future. And have pointed some of my buddies at it. It may not replace the Ti-Tri but what can I say? I like stoves.


@mlebwill
"I have had this conversation with some Rangers in Indian Peaks Wilderness in Colorado. Great area but they have some pretty stringent regulations regarding type of stove. To summarize the conversation only canister or white gas stoves are allowed in certain areas. Campfires, alcohol stoves and wood burning stoves are prohibited in these areas and I asked why alcohol and wood burning stoves are not allowed.

The response that I got was that wood burning and alcohol stoves don't have a shut off. To extinguish the flame, the fuel had to be consumed or the flame smothered in addition to the potential for sparks and ash. That is my take on the situation from my discussion with two very friendly rangers, the flame can't be controlled is the issue."

Michael, is that for anytime in IP or only when a fire ban is in effect? I know for Lost Creek Wilderness, it's only during fire bans. I was told the same thing. Had to have a switch. No alky, wood, or esbit. If you asked during a fire ban, which was a big chunk of last year (and unless we get some significant snow it could be all summer this year), maybe they were just talking about that period? I couldn't find anything about it on the FS website but am very curious to know.

PostedMar 20, 2011 at 12:18 am

Just received my BB Kettle in the mail today. I must say that after all that has happened in the last 9 days it sure was a psychological boost to have something occur that reminded me the world was still normal out there. THANKS DEVIN! Thanks for the kettle, but thanks, too, for your wonderful way of bringing us along for the ride and sharing in your excitement. This item now is imbued with more than a practical purpose, but a feeling of community, and I think that's really cool.

Devin actually sent me two kettles, No. 18, which is mine, and another one, No. 234, which he asked to be donated to the tsunami relief effort. That really made my day. So I'll do my best to get it up to the north and hope I can find someone who can use it. The relief effort will be a very long, ongoing job, so I will probably head up there in April, when I have a week off and I can join a volunteer group as a translator and hopefully as someone who can show people how to improve their lives outdoors with a lot of the ideas we have all talked about for years here. Who knows, Devin, you might get a big order from Japan.

Anyway here are my package opening pics. As soon as I get a chance to get outdoors and go hiking I'll take it along and send those pics, too.

Da daaaaaah!

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PostedMar 20, 2011 at 5:55 pm

I think everybody is missing the most obvious advantage…it's made in Pittsburgh!

I want my own boiler but I'd like to know what type of meals you guys are preparing with it. Is it pretty much for freezer bag cooking? Is there more versatility to it than that? I'm naive in the way of the boiler. All I know is that I love the fact that I could be cooking with wood.

Steven Paris BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2011 at 8:11 pm

So, for those of us who didn't order a Kettle, when is the next batch going to hit BPL?

Chris Morgan BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm

That's neat, Miguel and Devin,

Miguel, I like that last picture – seems like with all the popularity, the kettle deserves one of those "kettle around town" photo montages.

Kettle at the grocery store. Kettle at the park. Kettle's first haircut.

PostedMar 21, 2011 at 6:51 am

I did my first test and boiling went great. When I poured the water out it dribbled down the side a bit. I noticed that on some pics from others too. It would be great to have a mini clip on "spout" similar to the ones sold for paint cans or kitchen ware except made out of aluminum of course so it doesn't melt.

Like this:

spout

spout2

PostedMar 21, 2011 at 8:13 am

If the spout is made of silicone it shouldn't melt. Silicone kitchen utensils are often designed to pick up scalding pots.

PostedMar 21, 2011 at 9:01 am

Miguel I thought silicone would be fine for pouring but I was thinking it would be better to have it attached while boiling to avoid burning ones self trying to attach it after. Would it hold up to continuous use while on there during boiling as well?

PostedMar 21, 2011 at 10:20 am

[q]I want my own boiler but I'd like to know what type of meals you guys are preparing with it. Is it pretty much for freezer bag cooking? Is there more versatility to it than that? I'm naive in the way of the boiler. All I know is that I love the fact that I could be cooking with wood. [/q]

Primarily this is for boiling enough water for freezer bag or dehydrated meal type cooking for 1 or 2 people. Also hot drinks and purifing water. Though a little more than 2 cups at a time would be a slow process to treat drinking water.

You could rig up a pot stand to sit a pot on top of this and then in combination with boiling water you could cook anything you can cook on other stoves. There have been pics posted of that.

If all your looking for is to cook with wood there are lighter, smaller, cheaper and better options than this.

I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of my boiler.

Corey Downing BPL Member
PostedMar 21, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Is the BB a good choice for me? I've been going no-cook on most of my weekend trips recently. I miss having a cup of tea/coffee. Usually cooking for two. The stoves in my collection:
Whisperlite (or is it a simmerlite? doesn't matter)
Vargo Titanium alcohol stove (never successfully used this, been meaning to try again)
JetBoil

I'm planning on getting a SnowPeak LiteMax stove for times when a canister makes sense.

I'm looking to get a better alcohol and/or wood stove for most of my shorter trips out east. All I ever do is boil water. Not sure if I'd be better off with the BB or a Ti Tri or something else.

I like the idea of boiling water for food in the main compartment and water for tea/coffee on top of the BB… is there any trick to doing this?

I also like the idea of having a stove that can use both alcohol and wood. What type of alcohol stove would work well with the BB?

PostedMar 21, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Miguel I thought silicone would be fine for pouring but I was thinking it would be better to have it attached while boiling to avoid burning ones self trying to attach it after. Would it hold up to continuous use while on there during boiling as well?

I don't see why not. If the neoprene cozy can handle it, the silicone certainly can. In face I was thinking yesterday that a modified form of the plug could be used in the present plug's place, something with a spout and hole for while boiling, then a separate plug to close it up when storing the boiler with water inside.

PostedMar 21, 2011 at 4:32 pm

I think that there is a way to pour water out without dribbling but I need for mine to turn up to test that.
I will let you know…
Franco

. . BPL Member
PostedMar 21, 2011 at 7:59 pm

I have been considering coring the center out of the silicone spout with a 3/4" drill bit and adding a wine cork to it. This way, I could pour through the silicone…plus, real corks are just classy.

PostedMar 22, 2011 at 3:29 pm

Thanks all!

Miguel – I emailed you, too, but I'm really glad both got there safe and sound. From other threads it sounds like you're getting really involved in aid efforts and I wish you the best in it. I know the impact for you all will long outlast the international attention.

Christopher – Heck yeah, Made in Pittsburgh! The Boiler is just for meals (or hot drinks) that only need boiling water – so yeah, freezer-bag cooking, but it doesn't necessarily need to be in a freezer bag. Personally, I have simple tastes, and I could eat oatmeal and Ramen for breakfast and dinner for months on end, but some get much fancier, even with just boiled water.

Steven – I'm working on some improvements for the next batch, but orders should be open in a few weeks. If you sign up for the mailing list on my blog (www.theboilerwerks.com), you'll get a notice as soon as they are.

Chris – great idea, but it should be "Boiler around town," remember, kettles are lame. :)

Tim – as for "lighter, smaller, cheaper and better" options, I don't know. There are cheaper MYOG possibilities, but this is on par with other commercially available systems. "Smaller, lighter" – yeah, but this also carries water. As for "better," I strongly disagree. If all you want to do is boil water for a solo trip, the efficiency, speed, simplicity and weather-worthiness is hard to match. I hope you think the same when you get yours. :)

Corey – if you check out the YouTube channel for Medicineman4040, you'll see a handy pot stand he devised for heating water on top (doesn't reach boiling) and boiling water on the bottom – pretty cool. It sounds like the trangia works pretty well as an alcohol burner, but an optimized burner will soon be in the works.

On clean pouring – I should start by saying that I think dribbles of water are less concerning than dribbles of paint, but that avoiding them is good, if possible. Looking at the production Boilers and my prototype, I can see why there may be a bit more of a dribbling concern – the spout is just a faction of an inch further from the outer rim of the Boiler. It's a very small difference, but enough that it inhibits the stream of water from releasing as well from the vessel. If it really bothers you (and you have access to a drill press or a friend with one) you could bore out the spout another 1/32" – 1/16" and it should pour better. If you do this, however, I would recommend not doing it concentrically, but rather lining up the inner edge with that of the existing hole – it's already as close to the chimney as it can go. Deburring is tricky but doable. For the next batch, I'll make sure the spout is that fraction closer to the outer rim. Shouldn't ruin the whole experience, I hope. :)

On coring the the stopper – cork is cool, but a drill bit will just chew up the silicone. Something called a "cork borer" will make a much smoother cut. Have any friends that work in labs? :)

BER — BPL Member
PostedMar 22, 2011 at 8:39 pm

Coring out the soft silicone stopper is easy with a scalpel or sharp knife. And the improvement in pouring is amazing. I didn't see myself using the BCB as a canteen. But if desired additional stoppers are available on amazon. Ten for $20.

. Callahan BPL Member
PostedMar 22, 2011 at 9:02 pm

"Have any friends that work in labs? :)"

Let's not go there… (o:

Lab Tech'

PostedMar 23, 2011 at 5:53 am

Just a note before everyone starts cutting up their stoppers – Amazon (and just about the entire rest of the world) is out of stock of the stoppers in this size. The company that makes them actually had to produce more for my order, and I don't have many extras. So I would recommend finding the stock of backups before hacking away. :)

Sam – unfortunately, non-members of HF can't access the gear forum there. :(

PostedMar 23, 2011 at 6:05 am

Guess I got lucky with my order of stoppers, they are in route to me.

As for no access, I suggest that folks join there too as the intrests inter link really well.

And Devin you done good with the BCB.

PostedMar 23, 2011 at 7:09 am

Thanks, Sam. :)

So these are Versilic 27Ds? I would just check to make sure that they've actually been sent – there were three companies that took my order, only to send me something days later saying that they were out of stock. Many of them don't actually have the stoppers themselves, but ship directly from distributors.

If the place does have them, I'd love it if you could share the source here. I only have a few extras and would rather keep those in case someone loses theirs.

PostedMar 23, 2011 at 11:07 am

Ordered mine through Amazon.com the fedex tracking says they have left Chicago on the 22nd. They are still listed as in stock as of a few minutes ago.

"FDA-Approved High-Purity Solid Stoppers, Silicone
Qty/pk: 10
Standard size number: 4
European size number: 27D
Bottom OD: 21 mm
Color: Translucent
Material: Silicone
Height: 30 mm
Top OD: 27 mm
Manufacturer number: D1069813
Model: D1069813
Part Number: AO-62994-18
Package Quantity: PACKAGE of 10"

Sold by: Cole-Parmer

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