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PostedDec 19, 2010 at 3:02 pm

I'm ready to make the switch from a double wall bomber tent to something simpler and lighter.

I've been thinking a double rainbow for some time – but the MLD tarps with permiter netting have peaked my interest in trying out a tarp instead.

A few of the the things I'm looking for: I'm 6'3". It looks like the duomid would be okay, but maybe a bit small for me. It will just see 3 season use in midwest forests or on the AT (no snow). It needs to accomodate me and my 9 year old son.

Based on size and availablity of the perimeter netting, I'm leaning toward the speedmid.

Before I pull the trigger, i'm still concerned that the perimeter netting won't keep out the ticks. (i've woke up too many times with ticks crawling all over my tent). As long as I use a groundsheet, will I keep most of them out?

I also see a lot of posts with a bivy sack being used with tarps. I'm guessing that with the size of the speedmid and the splash protection of perimeter netting that I don't need a bivy (i've got a synthetic sleeping bag).

Would the speedmid be a good choice for this situation?

PostedDec 19, 2010 at 3:26 pm

I can't comment on the tick issue, but the perimeter netting is quite long and you can easily take a ground sheet large enough to cover the bottom of the netting. You could please gear around the perimeter to keep out any crawling bugs.

PostedDec 19, 2010 at 4:09 pm

I think this may be different with different ticks, but I find the common deer tick where I live, don't crawl around so much as wait and brush on to your clothing as you walk by.

I have heard about some ticks crawling around, but only in very warm conditions.

I think most would agree that ticks are far more likely to get you hiking than sleeping.

I do know that I have been bit by other arachnids when cowboy camping, but the ticks have probably attached to me on the trail.

Permethrin treated clothing has been my method.

PostedDec 19, 2010 at 5:47 pm

The Zpacks hexamid might be worth looking at. It is full enclosed by some netting, so it should keep ticks out.

Ken Thompson BPL Member
PostedDec 19, 2010 at 5:52 pm

You would have plenty of room in a Duomid, without an inner. I am as tall as you and had no issues with size I sure you could get netting added to the bottom. Would be a super simple DIY mod too.

PostedDec 19, 2010 at 7:36 pm

Permethrin is supposed to be very effective against ticks, and one of the classic uses of permethrin is on mosquito netting. Why not just apply it to your tent?

Robert Cowman BPL Member
PostedDec 19, 2010 at 8:19 pm

because it can cause a chemical reaction and make it melt. 100% deet can destroy GTX. I've never applied these to anything I own because here in Canada our government apparently knows whats best for us.

PostedDec 19, 2010 at 8:41 pm

"because it can cause a chemical reaction and make it melt. 100% deet can destroy GTX."
DEET isn't the same thing as permethrin.

"I've never applied these to anything I own because here in Canada our government apparently knows whats best for us."
With permethrin, I think this is more of an environmental issue. Permethrin is environmentally harmful if it washes off in the rain or in a creek, but as long as that doesn't happen, it breaks down in sunlight into harmless chemicals. This is why it has to be reapplied fairly often. I'd think this would be less of a concern if you're applying it to the netting of a tent, which isn't normally going to get wet.

James Marco BPL Member
PostedDec 20, 2010 at 4:34 am

It depends on the material. Permethrin can form loose hydrogen bonding with some materials, not well with silnylon, unfortunatly. PU will bond somewhat. This is in the nature of a dye. Netting is typically untreated and stays pretty good.

Some cloths will hold the permethrin for several washings. Some will not. Those that do will quickly become your favorite piece of clothing in bug season.

jdm

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