Stein Valley Traverse, BC – 8 Days

Nice pictures Dan, It's looks cold up there in BC! When does the hiking season end in British Columbia?

Awesome pics. I HATE boulders.

The combination of rain, sleet and snow at temps just above and below freezing are the worst. If it was cold enough that just snow fell, you probably would have been just fine in that depression.

Re: hiking season. There has been an usual amount of snow in the higher elevations in BC and Alberta. Jasper at 5000ft currently has snow. The pic in my avatar was taken at 10,000 ft just about 3 weeks ago. 5 days prior there was zero snow.

Hey Dan,

Thx for the nice trip report and the pictures. Seems like you had a good trip and experienced all the weather that the Stein Valley can drop on you during that time. Too bad that you got soaked.

How did you like the boulder fields around Tundra Lake? :)
I started to hate them last year, cause there are so many there.
Have you been able to see the magnificant and changing colors of that lake?

I have been just to Tundra Lake last year, hiking in from Lillooet Lake, we had to fall back due to the forest fire situation. This Summer is definitely quite different than last year. We had 6 hot and sunny days in the end of August.

Did you see any bears?

@Jay: September is usually nice, but weather can change fast here in the alpine and you can get all 4 season in one day or get heavy rain for hours, especially close to the coast. And it seems that fall is coming really early this year. The leaves are already starting to fall here in Vancouver. The guide book for the Stein Valley says that July till September is the perfect hiking season for the alpine areas.

Yeah the hiking season really varies. On Vancouver Island along the low elevation coastal trails (ie. Juan de Fuca, Sunshine Coast Trail, West Coast Trail) you can hike them pretty late. I imagine you could do the JDF any time of the year but at a higher risk of storms blowing in. On YouTube there is a video of someone doing the WCT in Jan or Feb.

For higher elevation trails in the mtns the end is probably sept-ish but sometimes you get nice weather into mid-November here in the Whistler area. That gets risky though so you gotta be prepared for anything.

We only saw one bear. It was a nice sized black bear in the forest fire burn area. No grizzlies this time. We saw one by the suspension bridge in the spring.

Here's a few more pics:

Tara and I in the forest fire burn area:

Cottonwood Falls:

Burnt old growth cedars:

'Logjam Camp':

For dessert one night we had brie heated up over the bushbuddy coals with brown sugar. Delicious!

One day I'll get better at taking these 'glowing tent' shots. I need a tripod:

The middle of nowhere:

Another trout. Too bad I only had 45 min or so to fish. The lake seemed loaded with trout. I caught 3 and had a few more get away.

A rainbow 'all the way across the sky!':

On the first ridge above Stein Lake:

Same ridge:

Whoa!

Tundra lake is so awesome. Such a deep blue. I wish I had a few more days in the area to explore other places like Elton lake and 5000' meadows.

Our dog Asia warming up:

Drying everything in the cabin:

Just curious why you didn't have everything sans food inside your tent with you?

Dan,

Great trip report. Looks like you and Tara had an amazing time. Quite the shocker I imagine going into day 7 with the weather and the wet kit…good call on pushing through to the cabin.

Thanks Dan, excellent trip report and pics!

That looks like a great trip.

"Just curious why you didn't have everything sans food inside your tent with you?"

I should have had more stuff inside the tent with me. Some mistakes were definitely made here and I've been learning from and mulling over this situation to prevent it in the future. Maybe you have some suggestions?

Normally I would have had everything in the tent except for food, shoes and water/fuel bottles. I usually sleep with my pack and spare clothes under my feet.

In this case though, a lot of our stuff had gotten at least partially wet the previous evening when rain/snow chased us off that ridge to a hasty camp. That previous evening I didn't get my pack cover and rain gear on as quickly as I should have because I was helping my wife and because I was a bit too concerned with just getting the tent setup (mistake #1).

The day before this night-time flood, we had almost all of our clothes drying on a clothes line but it was pretty humid out and they were drying slowly. The only dry clothes I had was my down jkt, down pants, 1 underwear and 1 hiking shirt. When it was time to go to bed I took the wet stuff down in case of rain and put the 1/2 dry clothes in a cuben stuff sack that I thought was waterproof. I left this sack in the vestibule (mistake #2). I could have put it in the tent but I didn't think much of it.

So yeah, when I woke up the stuff sack was sitting in several inches of water and the clothes were totally saturated because they had been soaked up water, I guess through the seams. The clothes were 100% soaked. Prior to this, a lot of the stuff (ie. hiking pants, gloves, socks) would have been mostly dry.

When we set out on our hike I opted not to wear my down pants because I wanted to ensure they stayed dry in case our hike was unsuccessful and we were forced to camp in the cold, snowy conditions. I did wear my montbell inner down jkt but it got somewhat wet because the sleeves keep sneaking out past my rain jkt sleeves and because every time I bend over my rain jkt rides up and the down gets exposed. I was aware of these problems and tried to stay on top of them, but in hours of snow/slush/rain it's a battle that I was slowly losing. Besides really cold, wet hands I was fine for our hike that day. The rain pants didn't provide much insulation but a wind barrier was enough with the heat I was generating. Maybe a synthetic insulating jkt would be better gear choice than down because a jkt is a hard thing to ensure it stays dry.

My wife was in a bit better position that I was because I put her 1/2 wet clothes in a different cuben stuff sack in the vestibule and that one did not leak. She had wool gloves, MYOG silnylon rain mitts, wool cap, extra shirt and hiking pants.

Hi there, first time poster here. Awesome trip report guys!!! Makes me want to hike the Stein even more. I plan on doing it within a couple of years. It loos as though you had a wonderfull trip. Thanks for the TR, it was fun to check out. Have you done any other hikes around BC?

Sorry, I forgot to ask you if that blue tent was your dogs or just more storage space? Thanks in advance.

Great trip report and thanks for sharing your mistakes too. It is an especially good reminder about site selection, something I've made my share of mistakes with in the past too.

Dan, I was fishing in Alaska when you first posted this and missed the whole thing. What a great trip.
Maybe if you have time, make a brief post report on what you did right and what you would change, maybe in bullet form.

What is your recipe for the Bannock? do you carry fat or oil?

You also married way over your head! (what a trooper)

Dan,

+1 for >>You also married way over your head! (what a trooper)<<

You are a lucky man.

I enjoyed the trip report and the awesome pictures.

I'll do cold and I'll do wet. But I supremely dislike cold and wet! ;-)

I really liked the map pic of "2 Days From any Help" a.k.a. "The Middle of Nowhere".

Party On,

Newton

Nice TR! Between Cottonwood Falls, old growth, and mountain ridges I'd say you had it all. I'm always amazed at what a difference a low wet spot can make, but like you said…live & learn.

Great trip, thanks for the report and the pictures.

The REI quarterdome T2 was my first backpacking tent (I like my room!). I also woke up one morning (in Vermont) on a waterbed! It had rained so hard the night before parts of the campground we were staying in had been evacuated, and the road right outside the campground entrance had washed away.

But I stayed dry in that tent. There was probably at least 2 inches of standing water right outside (and underneath!) my tent, but the floor didn't let any of it in! I hope my current shelters prove as waterproof if the need arises!

I guess this thread has risen up from the dead.

"I forgot to ask you if that blue tent was your dogs or just more storage space?"
That's a little tent I whipped up for our dog. She's a bit annoying to sleep with because she's often moving around. She carries this tent in her saddle bags. It's about 6oz.

"Makes me want to hike the Stein even more. I plan on doing it within a couple of years."
This Stein is really awesome. I think it's the remote-ness that makes it so cool. We saw ~2 other groups in 8 days, so you really get the feeling that you're in the middle of nowhere. I'd highly recommend the Stein. They are supposed to clear all the fallen forest fire logs this spring.

"What is your recipe for the Bannock? do you carry fat or oil?"
We used olive oil to make it. I don't recall the recipe. It was a basic bannock recipe I quickly grabbed online. What made it delicious was that we dipped it in garlic power / parsley / olive oil.

"Maybe if you have time, make a brief post report on what you did right and what you would change, maybe in bullet form."
The main mistake was the site selection made that one night, which made us vulnerable to more serious subsequent trouble. Aside from some wet clothes discomfort, it did cause any major trouble but it could have. A serious situation could have resulted from this mistake if a few other things went wrong as well. Had the tent floored leaked (and soaked our sleeping bags) and then if we were unable to navigate through the snow the next day and we were forced to camp in cold conditions with wet sleeping bags then it could have been a serious problem, depending on how cold it got and how long it lasted. I do think we still would have likely been okay though, because we did have dry down pants each and fairly dry down jackets and extra food. Our baselayers were very quick drying as well, so those could have been dried easily in the tent by wearing them for a short period.

So the things we did right were:
1) Not having all our eggs (insulation) in one basket. Even if our sleeping bags got soaked we still had down jackets and pants.
2) Using very quick drying baselayers
3) Successfully navigating through difficult trail conditions

I plan on hiking the Stein again this summer. I will likely do it a bit earlier (August) although September is normally a great time to do it. I might do the full traverse again or I might start at Blowdown pass instead of Lytton and hike to the same destination. The trip length would be similar and I would be a little different which is nice. My other big trip planned for this summer is the Cottonwood trail up in Kluane National Park (Yukon).