Mar 21, 2010 at 6:27 pm #1256772
Four of us went out this past weekend and had a cottage gear manufacturer's campsite!
Jeremy's Contrail and Adam's Monk Tarp. Under Adam's tarp is a Nunatak Arc AT and an MLD Superlight bivy.
My Hexamid Twin and Doug2's Lunar Solo e. Under the Hexamid was my Nunatak Ghost and Bender Newbie DAM.
Also on the trip, a Zpacks cuben Blast 32, a ULA Conduit, and two SMD Starlites, as well as a set of TiGoat carbon poles and 2 GG LT4s!
Yeah for the little guys!Mar 21, 2010 at 6:33 pm #1589167
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Cool stuff. You just made me realize that the majority of my gear is cottage industry stuff, aside from a few notable items like gps and footwear.Mar 21, 2010 at 6:34 pm #1589169
– -K.T.- –Participant
Very cool! You look like you got a nice spot there too. Like our Point Reyes trip, it does not look like a regular campout. It looks BETTER!Mar 21, 2010 at 6:34 pm #1589170
Nice shelters! Where'd you go walking?
It looks like it was a great weather weekend!Mar 21, 2010 at 6:45 pm #1589171
Did a real quick loop from Caledonia State Park, PA. It was truly fabulous weather. 70s during the day, low 40s at night with little to no wind. Way too short, but with weather like that we just had to get out!Mar 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm #1589182
Wow, I'd think you guys were still buried knee deep in snow, sure looks like spring and those temps are perfect. Thanks for sharing your photos. Hey Doug, just by chance, would you happen to know how high off the ground Adam pitched his MLD Monk tarp (6"- 8") and the length of his guylines? Cheers.Mar 21, 2010 at 7:19 pm #1589191
Hi Eugene, I don't know, but asked Adam to 'come by' and post the info. My guess is 4"-6" off the ground. Don't know about the length of the guylines at all.Mar 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm #1589201
I like looking through all the cottage industry wares when I'm thinking of getting a new piece of gear. For some reason, going the cottage route seems more…."authentic." Dunno the right word…Mar 21, 2010 at 7:57 pm #1589206
My Monk tarp was pitched about 3-4 inches off the ground in the back and around the rear sides. Towards the front, I'd say about 6 inches off the ground. I didn't need to pitch it that low, but it was my first time with it out in the field. Next time, if the weather is fair, I'm going to play with some higher pitching options.
Here's a photo of the front view:
Here's the break down of my guyline lengths:
– 7' guyline for the front guyout point (this pitches up and out using my trekking pole.)
– 4' guy lines for the front corners
– 2' guylines for the sides
– 2' guylines for the rear and rear side points
This tarp worked out great. I have a ton of options with it, and it's oh so light at 4.4 oz.
Doug – Thanks for posting these!Mar 21, 2010 at 8:19 pm #1589213
And I forgot to mention the Caldera Cones around the campfire — I had the Ti-Tri with MLD 850 pot, Adam had a Caldera Cone with his BPL 550 pot, and Jeremy had a Caldera shorty Al with an Evernew pot. Doug2 might have had a Caldera as well, I don't remember!Mar 21, 2010 at 8:25 pm #1589214
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@ben2worldLocale: So Cal
Man, this is starting to sound incestuous!
Very nice campsite!!!Mar 21, 2010 at 9:04 pm #1589223
Perfect Adam! That's exactly the kinda info I was looking for. I have a BPL Nano cord set I need to tie into my Monk tarp. I've pitched it to the ground with good results just haven't guyed out the sides or rear. Thanks.Mar 22, 2010 at 3:05 am #1589301
You're very welcome Eugene,
The Monk is really such a great tarp… can't say enough about it. Like I said in my previous post, it was my first time bringing it out (I've "graduated" to my Monk from a sil MLD Grace Solo), and I love it. I can see that it will be a breeze to set it up in different configurations, and, paired with my MLD SuperLight or Bug Bivy, it has easily rose to the top as my go to 3 season shelter.
Though, Doug's Hexamid was looking fine!Mar 22, 2010 at 5:37 am #1589315
I thought about the Monk tarp for awhile before BPL came out with the Stealth Nano. I just wasn't sure if the Monk would provide comfortable coverage in rainy weather. It looks like it might be a bit small. I know a bivy would keep me dry, but.
Adam, as a furtherance of my earlier thread regarding short quilts, what did you pair the Arc AT with (besides the bivy) and how did it work?
Thanks.Mar 22, 2010 at 5:57 am #1589319
Adam, funny you should mention, I use the MLD Superlight bivy as well. I actually owned the MLD Monk Spinntex XP a few months back, pitched it, was unsure about it as I'm 6', never got out with it and put it in the closet and regretfully sold it. Shortly after I acquired the Superlight bivy I decided go full circle and pick up a Monk AGAIN for light coverage and pitching variety. I'm doing a 4 day in a few weeks and will be bringing the MLD Monk or my Grace Solo Spinntex depending on the weather. Cheers.Mar 22, 2010 at 6:24 am #1589320
Adam's off to Chicago, so I'll tell you what I know. He has an AT Long with 1.5 oz of overfill. We were laughing about that when I told him I was selling the same thing! He paired it with a Skaha Plus. He was also wearing a pair of Icebreaker 200 leggings. Low temp was 41-42 degrees, if I remember correctly. No real wind to speak of. He didn't wear the hood on the Skaha. He said he was 'quite toasty.'
I'll shoot him an email and ask him to comment further when he gets a chance.Mar 22, 2010 at 6:36 am #1589323
@trevor83Locale: ATL -- Zurich -- SF Bay Area
Doug – is that the two-person Hexamid with a sewn in Cuban floor? That looks pretty sweet. How much does it weigh?Mar 22, 2010 at 7:00 am #1589334
@slvravnLocale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Doug – If I could add to Trevor's question…Is it possible to give a brief rundown/review of the two person Hexamid. ThanksMar 22, 2010 at 7:03 am #1589335
My Arc AT is the long version with 1 oz. of down overfill, and I paired it with a Skaha Plus, also with 1 oz. of overfill. I was sleeping on a GG 1/8" ThinLite and BPL Torsolite. My ULA COnduit was under my legs.
I can already tell, after only one night, that this mix is going to be so versatile and be my standard for all 3 season outings (though, I'm definitely going to pick up a Kooka Bay inflatable pad).
I want to say we got down to the low 40's Saturday night and I had NO cold spots, so drafts, etc. I was very toasty, and did not wear the hood on the Skaha. I also didn't zip it up.
The whole set up was a breeze to set up. Definitely a keeper!
As for the comments about the Monk, yeah, it's a fairly "spartan" set up, but I'm 6'1" and had no problems getting under it and felt sufficiently covered. Moreover, I carry a ULA Rainwrap and can fashion a "door" at the front (with a slightly different pitch from the shown above) and have full coverage. The only caveat to that would be horizontal wind driven rain, which we don't see a whole lot of in the Mid-Atlantic.
Feel free to post any other questions. I can't say enough good things about the set up!Mar 22, 2010 at 7:04 am #1589336
It is the twin, but the floor is not sewn in. Joe made me a cuben floor with grossgrain loops so I can tie it up for a full bathtub floor (hooks into loops he sewed to the inner portion of the Hexamid for that purpose) per my specs to sit in the shelter. So it's a regular Twin with full netting, and then the floor sits inside. With guylines and optional linelocs, the floor and the optional doors, in the stuff sack, it weighs 510 grams (just over a pound) on my cheapo Salter kitchen scale.Mar 22, 2010 at 7:12 am #1589341
@trevor83Locale: ATL -- Zurich -- SF Bay Area
Doug – Thanks for the run-down! 510 g is pretty amazing for a fully enclosed 2 person shelter. I like the mods you requested as well. My guess is those might become pretty common mods requested of Joe.Mar 22, 2010 at 7:12 am #1589342
Very brief, as I'm late for work!
Easy to set up. This was my first time using it, I had only set it up once before in my yard to seam seal it. Unlike the solo Hexamid, the cuben 'back' of the Twin comes nearly to the ground (you could pitch it to the ground if you wanted to), so lots of protection at the back. I'm 5'8", and had plenty of room, both width and length wise (pic below of me in it). I think you can see from one of the pics above, all of the gear I had next to me, and I wasn't all the way back. You could easily use this for two people if you wanted to, especially with the optional doors. Jeremy climbed in to see what kind of room it had, he's 6'4" I believe, and he felt he could have slept it in pretty easily as well, though perhaps at a slight diagonal.
I'm very impressed with it. It really is a very lightweight palace for one! And with the cuben floor I can skip bringing my bivy (which I did on this trip) when weather conditions allow.
Very highly recommended.
.Mar 22, 2010 at 10:18 am #1589417
@slvravnLocale: East Coast - Mid Atlantic
Doug – Thanks for the mini write-up and the photo. I am 5' 8" too and it looks and sounds great. I have the tarp only Hexamid and I think that I am going to upgrade to this once it is available again!Mar 22, 2010 at 11:45 am #1589469
Could I ask, how long you had your poles set at ? Also, do you think the Duo double would be prone to wind flap because of the larger area?Mar 22, 2010 at 11:54 am #1589471
If you're talking about the Hexamid Twin, I don't really know how long my poles were set. I usually set the front pole to come up to the bottom of my chest. The back pole is usually just set as low as it can go.
As far as wind, it certainly is a bigger wing, so probably, but I have no direct experience to relate. I'd think the front door would minimize some wind issues.
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