Mammut Light Pump Mat

It looks like an empty air mat, which would be pretty useless.

But … they claim PU foam inside and R-value of 4.1, which is not bad. Weight is medium: 570 g. Thickness of 3" and length of 187 cm – this could be a useful snow mat with a bit of CCF under it maybe.

Cost is high though: SF220.

Yeah, interesting! Very!

Cheers

The Mammut site says it inflates in 30 sec. Certainly looks interesting.

From the Mammut site –

"Inflated in just 30 seconds thanks to the newly developed hand pump, "

Integrated or Separate?

Also,
Any guesses on how their R4 compares to a Big Agnes Insulate Air Core, or a POE Thermal?

what's the deal with all the marketing around how fast a mat inflates, or how many breaths it takes to fill? Do people really care if it take 30 seconds or 3 minutes, or 9 breaths or 20? It's backpacking right? Where's the fire?

I do like the look of this mat. If I could design a custom mat for me it would approach these dimensions. My fantasy mat would be inflatable and made specifically for fetal-positioned side sleepers who want thick cushion and moderate weight. It would be 5 feet long, 3.5 inches thick, 24 inches wide in the top 3 feet then 18 inches down at the bottom. It would have 3 season insulation, not 4, and might hold insulation only right up under my body (and not fill the whole tube) to save some weight. It could weigh 60% of the large-sized Exped Syn 9 DLX, so maybe 25oz. I'd call it the Side Winder, or the Side Dish, or the Take A Side or some other groan-inducing pun with the word "side" in it.

Okay sorry — Mammut mat — I'd like to give it a test lie …

>what's the deal with all the marketing around how fast a mat inflates, or how many breaths it takes to fill? Do people really care if it take 30 seconds or 3 minutes, or 9 breaths or 20? It's backpacking right? Where's the fire?

I agree. But I can't speak for anything at altitude, since I have no experience with hiking at anything above 5500'.

That being said, my gf hates blowing up her inflatable at camp. I could care less. I just look at the pretty scenery while blowing it up! YMMV.

Yeah, you're breathing anyway.

Henry? Fetal position? Try crying your self to sleep on this

and though I'm bigger he's meaner

The big deal is when you have an insulated mat.

Condensing breath, which then freezes during the day, makes for an uncomfortable night.
Especially if you can't unroll and inflate the mat.

I'm not one to complain about how a mattress inflates … put me firmly in the "I don't care" camp … BUT, if this uses a hand pump I would never buy it. I had the Exped Downmat pump version, and found it a total pain to inflate, especially in colder environments.

Christopher,
How does cold affect the pumping process?

I would like to compare this to the OR Exped 7 Pump mat, with a R-5.9 rating, weighing at 31.7oz for the full length and 22.2oz for the short- 3/4 version.

I trolled around today and found a few more details on the Mammut Light Pump Mat. Here are the interesting ones:

– New Square TX fabric is touted as durable, non-slip and very light.
– Hand-pump is integrated into the foot section for fast (30 seconds) inflation. Large valves for easy deflation.
– Polyurethane foam insulation for maximum cold protection and minimum pack volume.
– Foam is laminated to the interior of the body side to provide insulation against the cold.

I wonder if the layer of polyurethane foam is enough to make this pad a partial self-inflator, with the hand pump used to finish off the process. I may have to be an early adopter on this one – not something I normally do but this pad looks really promising for the backpacking I do in my area – where you can have a night near or below freezing just about any time of year.

I like how it's a little wider than your typical 20" width pad. With the length wise tubes you'll get the whole width too. I like my 25×78 BA Insulated AC but it's a hog.

21.7" x 72"
20oz

I hate being the first guy to get it but it's sweet.

I like how the head portion is more suitable for a pillow and has eye holes for attaching a pillow. Being a side quilt sleeper.

Has anyone tried this yet? Can't seem to find it at most retailers..

I'm in the market for a really warm and comfortable sleeping pad for my girlfriend and this seems tempting at 20 oz..

My other option was to buy the Big Agnes Insulated Air Core (short) (18 oz) and pair it with the Ridgerest (14 oz) and hope that my girlfriend finds the Ridgerest unnecessary and can leave that behind.

Would anyone have other suggestions that would work better than that and weigh under say, 24 oz?

(The Exped DownMat 7 (short) is around 24 oz but only 47" long.. my girlfriend is about 5' 9".)