Trekking and hunting

Hi Gerald

I live on a 15,000 acre (approx 20 sq. mile) working cattle ranch in Ca., that our family has operated since 1816. I frequently take out my dog, a 12 gauge and a 6 b 3 season kit. There are few experiences that can equal a nice glass of pinot ( we're in the Santa Ynez valley one of the worlds best wine regions), and a couple of Quail cooked over an open fire on clear night with a full moon. I'll average 11 to 15 miles on these days. My dog and I always come home happy and usually well fed.

The 12 gauge and the bottle of wine are anything but UL but one of the beauties of what we do is that it lets us bring goodies with us and still go light.

Yours on the path.

Bill

original comment about the cute gun has been deleted.

Critique of Dan's cute remarks deleted.

I'm not trying to sway anyone. There's a typo in your second paragraph…..

Yes, let's just erase the whole sad episode..

entertainment has been deleted forever.

Should've cleared this space sooner…

I erased the not afraid part before I saw your post. Anyway, about that Pika trap…..not for another decade?!

"I hope we are both banned…"

Aw, c'mon Dean. Now don't you go and get yourself booted when we're already on the verge of losing a couple of superstars. This place is gonna start getting real dreary just when my SAD is kicking in up here in the land of liquid sunshine. It'll be down to Dave T, and he'll get bored and probably leave without some worthy adversaries.

Hey Dan,
I've been wondering when you'd surface. Be careful how you talk to Dean. When they start drafting 50 somethings to send to Afghanistan, you could end up on the operating table in some MASH ward looking up at Dean with a scalpel in his hand and an evil grin on his face.

Oops, the flames are licking at my keyboard; Gotta go.

By the way guys, this has nothing to do with you. I've just been set on a hair trigger by the whole "politeness" thing. I guess I'm just trying to get through the "spit" phase and into the "rational discussion" phase as quickly as possible… :o)

I'm ready to viciously attack both sides. Have at me! :o)

EDIT–

Thanks, Tom. It's nice to be loved.

OK, I give in. I'll erase my posts so as not to hurt anybodies feelings. We can just say I was banned.

Aw, don't erase them! This is, like, a national sport!

Not to mention it's not fighting fair! Now you're casting ME as the censor!

"Thanks, Tom. It's nice to be loved."

I've always been ready to take on the tough jobs. Big hug.
:)

Man, now you tell me! I got if off my chest so good luck on finding someone else to go after around this place!

>> Big hug.

HA!

nvm

Me too! But I'm into traps myself.

I'm definitely not going to claim that there aren't some sick hunters out there. I've met them! But there are also a lot of hunters and fishermen who honestly feel a nigh spiritual connection with nature. FWIW.

Out.

Don't go putting words in my mouth. I'm dissappointed BRANDON erased his post – chicken.

Now, Dan, I noticed that you erased some of those posts long AFTER you claimed it was "too late." What gives? Especially when you're calling Brandon a "chicken."

By the way, and don't read too much into this question, because I'm done here, too- I'm just always curious when this canned flamewar rears its head…

Are you a vegan?

"And, honestly, it is the PRO-hunting people on this forum that have been bullied into avoiding posting about hunting, by the EVERY TIME tactics I described above. The poor, downtrodden anti-hunting people are behaving like bullies (and censors)."

You're joking…right?

I seem to have a recollection of the opposite.

"I live on a 15,000 acre (approx 20 sq. mile) working cattle ranch in Ca., that our family has operated since 1816"

Hobby farm is it?

So I go to a bicycling film festival for the evening, and I get back and find that I missed some wonderful flame war, and half the posts are erased! What's the fun in that! Sheesh, a guy can't even go out every now and then….

David-

No, you have a recollection of the pro-hunting folk giving as good as they got, on occasion. Yes, when you post some smug anti-hunting rhetoric when someone is trying to discuss lightweight rifles they will fight back. Fair is fair, and that is human nature. Take a look at those posts- see who started the flamewar.

I mean- you're joking, right? That's supposed to be irony? Did you miss my "EVERY TIME" point? There could be an awful lot more hunting issues discussed here, but no one wants to endure the harassment. In the interests of peace most hunters here never post about it. (Not to mention, as many have noted, this is primarily a hiking website not a hunting website.) Look at Sarah Kirkconnell (sp?). She hunts. Never mentions it unless someone else brings it up. Ask her why.

When hunting IS brought up it is usually by someone new to the forum, because they don't know what they are letting themselves in for.

There is a Fishing forum, but no Hunting forum. Why? Probably because of the attacks it would attract. (I can only IMAGINE!) I guess we could ask Ryan. He would certainly lose the business of the vitriolic anti-hunters.

Wow. Y'know, oddly, I actually think this has turned into a healthy (and reasonably civil) discussion. How did THAT happen?

I'm going to bed. G'night, all.