Oct 16, 2009 at 5:47 pm #1240312
Me and the Mrs are about to hit the trail. The high's will be in the 30's, lows in the 20's. One-two inches of snow. Do I need waterproof shoes? In the past I'd wear my old school goretex boots, but I'd rather wear my non waterproof inov8s. What do ya'll think?Oct 16, 2009 at 6:04 pm #1537118
Jeff JeffBPL Member
Boots are worth it for the traction alone. I don't use mesh trail runners below 40 degrees, but that is just me. If there is snow, it better be a 60 degree spring day :)Oct 16, 2009 at 6:12 pm #1537122
I'm getting ready to hit the trail as well, in Dolly Sods, tomorrow. I'm wearing my eVent trail runners (with integrated neoprene over-bootie) with MLD gaiters. Bringing some heavy duty trashbags for deeper water crossings. We'll see how the plan works out!Oct 16, 2009 at 6:28 pm #1537124
Greg MihalikBPL Member
Who's trail runners, with an integrated overboot?
ThanksOct 16, 2009 at 6:34 pm #1537126
I bought a pair of Saucony ProGrid Razor's. Had them out last weekend and intentionally walked through mud and puddles just below ankle high to test them out and stayed nice and dry. It's cold enough that my feet didn't sweat either, though the hike wasn't that long. This weekend will be a better test, as it'll be raining/snowing most of the day, nice and chilly, and plenty of water/mud on the trail. Might be some spots where the water is above the ankle bone, so I'm bringing the 3mil trash bags for that so I don't have to swap out shoes. Never tried that before, but I figured, what the heck!
Here's a link to the shoes: http://www.saucony.com/ShoeDetails.aspx?gen=m&use=Run&id=1161&rel=1118,1110,1107,1148,1109,1138,1104,1113,1041,1076,1102,1067,1064,1062,1146,1134,1161,1136,1155,1157,1159,1152,1150
DougOct 16, 2009 at 6:36 pm #1537127
Greg MihalikBPL Member
g.Oct 16, 2009 at 6:38 pm #1537128
@foundLocale: Sacramento, CA
How many days are you going out for?Oct 16, 2009 at 7:29 pm #1537137
Going out for six days, but its in SNP. so we hit civilization every other day. (Restrooms with hand driers!). Snow is only forecast for the first couple of days. I just hate wearing boots now that I've switched. My total pack weight is around 11lbs. Boots seem like such overkill.Oct 16, 2009 at 9:39 pm #1537166
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
It's not the snow that will give you problems, its the slush in the daytime. The slush is good at getting your socks wet, and that is bad news.
Suggestion: inov8s, but with largish GoreTex socks on the outside of your warmth socks, to keep them dry. Or just a handfull of breadbags.
Soles – you should crunch through 2" of snow. Sure, there will be a few slippery moments. Nothing is perfect.
CheersOct 17, 2009 at 12:37 am #1537186
@jephotoLocale: New Zealand
There are a couple of very comprehensive BPL articles that go into this in great detail. Just search for footwear cold. From my memory of them I think the Goretex over sock should work well for the conditions you describe.Oct 17, 2009 at 5:28 am #1537192
Thanks everybody, the took the snow off of the forecast, so I gonna go trial runner/bread bag.
See yall on the other side.Oct 17, 2009 at 6:03 am #1537196
@ken_bennettLocale: southeastern usa
I use goretex trail runners in winter, and mesh in the summer. In the shoulder seasons, it's more of a toss-up and depends on the weather forecast. If the forecast is for lows in the 20s and any sort of precip, I wear the w/b shoes and bring tall gaiters (because I always hike in shorts.)
In a fit of idiocy, I let both my mesh and my w/b trail runners get to the point where I HAVE to replace them. So I'm going to the REI sale and see what I can get.Oct 17, 2009 at 6:29 am #1537201
I gave up on waterproof trail runners a while ago. As soon as water comes over the top, and it always does, they stay wet!
Much better to use Rocky goretex socks. That way, one pair of shoes can be adapted to suit the conditions. Leave the socks at home in warm weather, and carry them with you for marginal conditions. No need to have winter and summer shoes when the same pair can do both.Oct 17, 2009 at 6:36 am #1537202
Hendrik MorkelBPL Member
@ Mike, great minds think alike!
In case you can't get Rocky GoreTex socks, try the Trekmates Amphibian GoreTex socks.
The article mentioned is this one: Lightweight Footwear Systems for Snow Travel Part 1 – 3. Highly recommended reading.Oct 17, 2009 at 7:20 am #1537206
@ramblerLocale: On the AT in VA
The waterproof socks will take the chill/cold shock of having your foot in slush.Oct 17, 2009 at 9:00 am #1537221
Woubeir (from Europe)BPL Member
Just to inform everybody who doesn't know: apparantly Rocky did stop making the gore-tex oversocks.Oct 17, 2009 at 9:18 am #1537228
Are you sure? I'm sure i read on a UK forum that a new supplier was about to start importing them into the UK again.Oct 17, 2009 at 9:25 am #1537230
Woubeir (from Europe)BPL Member
Yes, I know. I read that same thread. But I have a short cut to someone inside Gore and I asked her wether the socks were still made anymore or not. I thought her answer would be quite clear since they deliver the stuff the socks are made off. Unfortunately she had to tell me that Rocky didn't make them anymore.
If you have any info that tells a different story, I'm always interested because socks from Rocky seemed the best with a wide margin.Oct 17, 2009 at 9:36 am #1537232
In that case, i'm glad i bought a spare pair when they started getting difficult to find! :)Oct 17, 2009 at 12:13 pm #1537246
just looked up the trekmates and they are $80!…and if they aren't making the rocky socks anymore can anyone recommend a pair a little cheaper? Thanks.Oct 17, 2009 at 2:07 pm #1537266
I like a liner sock+wool sock+insulated footbed in a non waterproof TR+ I'D eVENT shortie gaiter for cold weather snow travel. I'll also add a gortex sock or plastic grocery bag when really needed. Great versitile, Ul system in the 20 oz range.Oct 17, 2009 at 3:00 pm #1537282
Jonathan RyanBPL Member
@jkrew81Locale: White Mtns
for the shoulder season up here in New England I wear my standard TR (inov8 roclite 315) with a wool sock and Rocky GTX sock. Once winter is in full swing I switch to a GTX boot (Inov8 Roclite 395 GTX this year) with a 2 layer wool sock system and 40 below overboot for severe cold.Oct 18, 2009 at 2:54 am #1537394
just looked up the trekmates and they are $80!…and if they aren't making the rocky socks anymore can anyone recommend a pair a little cheaper?
Not sure but the Trekmates socks cost 29.99 GBP to me?
But they're worth it, I love them :-) They don't stay dry forever though but they're better than the alternatives.Oct 18, 2009 at 4:26 pm #1537513
Mark VerberBPL Member
@verberLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
> apparently Rocky did stop making the gore-tex oversocks.
rocky goretex oversocks are still for sale at mec.ca in multiple sizes. Approx US$60 / pair.
–markOct 19, 2009 at 8:53 am #1537682
I'm seeing Rocky's available at a few places online.
Has anyone tried the SealSkinz socks? The water-blocker submersibles sound interesting, would love to know if anyone's tried them. Or the chill blockers.
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