11.4 oz 78x20x2.5″ Sleeping pad :)

I will start officially selling the blue pillows within a week or two.

As for a lighter version yes it is possible but it would be made to order. I have enough of the lighter material left to make just 1 pillow. I have the remainder of the material on order so that may be the end of the white stuff. I am searching for a new source.

Joe I don't know about your mummy bag but the pillow fits mine just fine. Rounding the corners helps I just don't have it shown in the last picture.

Has any one ever tried putting a survival blanket strip in a air mat like this one?
I think it would reflect and hold heat very well; maybe even shredded Mylar would work. it can surely put up with moisture and pack down well…
Well what do you all think?

Oh ya its cheap too.

I'm sure the one in your pic with rounded corners would be fine.

I'd be seriously interested in both products.

I don't get quite as good of a nights sleep on the single chamber pillows as I do with a dual chamber pillow but… the pillows that inflate with a straw are so light I don't complain. Yours on the other hand – now that's nice!

"I will start officially selling the blue pillows within a week or two."

Are you allowed to post the information in this thread? Or at least let us know about the for sale thread here? I'm watching this thread and don't want to miss out! :-)

Larry we do have a gear swap forum here but I will also be working on setting up a website. Right now I'm still collecting equipment and the necessary materials.

Bender,

I would also be interested in your pad and pillow.

One question however, can you have a bit of additional fabric at the corners of the pad and pillow so they can be toggled together, like the Montbell pads and pillows?

Great idea Case

I can leave room in the corners to attach loops of cord. I just need to get a hole punch now.

Bender,

Please consider an "Extra Thick Version", plus toggles, for use with the Neoair short. My Montbell pillow requires and extra 2 1/2" under it to raise it to the proper height.

+1 on the extra thick version
+1 on tie holes in the corners

I just got a hole punch, valves and some very interesting material for internal baffles. The material is 52g a square yard and looks like it stick just fine. I'm in the process of testing it.

additional material? extra thick? toggles? That sounds like extra weight. ;)

Haven't even started selling them yet and already suffering from feature creep. sad:)

-Tim

Features like holes in the corners is for weight savings of course ;)

Corner Tie-holes are very important so that if you have a Montbell sleeping pad (which have toggles at the corners), you can attach the pillow securely to the top of the Montbell Sleeping pad, to either be on top or above the sleeping pad. It is 1,000 times better having that pillow stay secure in place than otherwise. I have given up on Thermarest pads because they lack these corner toggles. I prefer the Montbell 5 foot long sleeping pad (at 16 oz) versus the 11 oz NeoAir pad (without toggles). I have a Montbell pillow which is about 2.4 oz and it has the corner tie holes. The proposed pillow, if it is the same size as the Montbell pillow, with tie-holes will save me an ounce and I'd be interested in it, provided it holds up as well as the Montbell pillow. The fabric in the Montbell pillow feels nice to the skin and I don't need a cover. I hope the inventor buys a Montbell pillow to compare his fabric feel and corner holes and size to that of the Montbell pillow.

Check it out! You may notice the baffles are slightly closer together. This helps stabilize and cradle your head even better. I don't use tie downs but they are no problem to add. Again weight is coming in at 1.3 ounces.

WOW. I think I'm in love ;)

Yeah right! Like a typical gear head, love for the nine hundred and thirty second time!

Even though it saves weight, I don't think you need holes and grommets on the side with the valve. And wouldn't the pillow need to be 20" to match up with the pad?

Man, these look sweet! I'm ready to get 2! Can't wait for you to release them.

George is watching you :)

Looks great. Good work.

Do you think it really needs the type of valve you have? Not that its not a very fine valve or anything ;)

What about a "soft valve" that is basically a tail of material that you clamp with a small clip after rolling it a little. Sort of like a waterproof stuff sack.

Or, what about using a small section of flexible tubing and a simple friction fit stopper?

Or, maybe use a very small pill bottle or other plastic bottle with a screw top. Cut the bottom off and glue in like you are already doing.

Or, hit the toy store and find a small rubber blow up toy with a high quality push plug nipple and glue it in a hole from behind….

I have been trying without any luck to find a nice valve like this in bulk pricing. I like some of your ideas so I may play around. The current valve is 5.2g. I may be able to cut that a bit but only if it is totally reliable. I have found that rolling a corner does not provide a perfect seal.

OK, Bender, first off, great work – this is turning into a nice product. Now, what about those of us who are crazy and want it even lighter? I'm just throwing this out there…what about a triangle to save the weight of the top 2 corners which will not be used. Then the valve located right at the top…it would look almost like the top section of a mummy pad.

Something like this (program isn't really designed to model pillows, but you get the idea right..). You can add your toggle holes on the bottom 2 corners.

Here is a mini version that style at 16.6g and 5.2g of that is the valve. Dimensions are 2.7" thick and 8.5" wide. From the dimensions it doesn't sound that small but trust me it is. I skipped the tie downs on this one.