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James Sweeney did some testing of the Shocking Blue. James is one of the few that understands the intricate design of the baffles of the Shocking Blue and this post is worth reading.
No, he is not a SALESMAN for Valandre'.
Comparing the Freja to the Shocking Blue is like comparing apples to oranges.
You got a mistake going on with the EN 13537 test reports. We published them, so that you have a dokument, to make your own judgement, weather the EN 13537 norme are credible or not. I have drawn my own, now you should draw yours.
The splash intro, with the psycopat ripping a bag apart, is the essence of the site. In 40 seconds, we take you straight into the hart of the subject. Doors are beeing opened, and you enter the real world of what this is all about. After this site, you know everything to know about down technology.
As I worked 6 month on this project, I realy hope that everybody enjoy it, and atleast respect et effords made.
Niels
I agree EN test results are not to be taken as set in stone value for comfort rating.
For exemple i have been using a mirage for a long time, and i know i can sleep warm in it naked a few degrees under zero, but my wife feels cold in it at +5+8°C and i have a friend that sleeps in one down to -10°C.
But even with that in mind its very nice to have results from a normalised test, and i am happy valandré did it for all their bags.
For me, the real value of the EN-norm is that it is supposed to make temperature ratings of different manufacturers comparable. Personally, I think that every temperature indication should be taken with some caution, because even a difference in physical condition can have a big effect.
That's great that you think your video is awesome but not everyone wants to download and watch a 40 second informational video. This should be on a separate page, maybe an 'about our technology' page. Also, upon first visit to your website I have no idea what kind of business you are without watching the video. This is just plain bad design.
The website in general also suffers from bad design. When I click products I see some text and then way at the bottom after a perplexing amount of empty space I finally see the links to your actual products.
The organization of your products is also difficult to navigate. I don't get how you have your bags organized. It's difficult to read the temperature ranges and you shouldn't use the extreme rating there. You should also have a table view which very quickly would allow someone to compare all your bags. If I want to know which bag weighs the least I have to click on each link to each bag and try to remember the values for each one.
Sorry, but the overall design is pretty amateur.
How about moving this thread to: "The G Spot"
Since it really doesn't announce or contain any, "Gear Deals" and it has more or less turned into a comparison between high-end bag manufacturers.
Speaking of… what about made in USA Nunatak Bags?
GS, very good reply and I thank you for your comments. I don't think much of the drunks you guys encountered at Elbrus, seems like much of the world is infested by such creeps…..thank God that we in Canada have such a safe country!
So, you know about cold weather and I can only say that, when I first heard of Valandre, my initial reaction was, oh, yeah, heres another "BEST"….then, I was sent this one to test and I was AMAZED and, bud, I am an ornery old phart who is not impressed very easily! It reminds me of when I received my old Marmot GT-down bag from Eric Reynolds in 1978….I just was blown away by what it would do compared to ANYTHING I had seen/used up to that time.
I expect to REALLY test the Shocking Blue this coming winter and hope to get into some REAL cold, and compare it with my ID XPDII and my buddie's FF Snowey Owl, one of which I had built, but, never got to use. So, we shall see, but, so far, it simply blows my elderly mind. :)
Good thread, but, Aaron is right, it should go to "G spot".
I would like to exchange some info's with both you Tom and Fred. Please contact Belcaire.
Niels
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