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Gore-Tex “Guaranteed to Keep You Dry” – Promise Kept, Financially

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Ben R BPL Member
PostedAug 14, 2009 at 11:13 am

I recently had a good experience with Gore, the maker of Gore-Tex, and just wanted to share it. I am not affiliated with Gore in any way.

I had a pair of Vasque Breeze GTX boots, which have Gore-Tex XCR liners. They were waterproof for 2.5 seasons of light to moderate hiking, and then suddenly not waterproof any more. The boots were otherwise in excellent shape, with many more miles left on them. I tested them in my kitchen sink, and verified a leak.

I had purchased them from Eastern Mountain Sports (EMS), who have a return policy similar to REI (take any return, anytime, for any reason). However, I had reservations on simply returning the boots to EMS, because I think they just lose the money. (As an aside, does anyone know if I had returned the boots would EMS get compensation from Vasque or Gore?)

Being familiar with the Gore advertisement of "Guaranteed to Keep You Dry", I thought I would see if it was true. I sent an email to Gore on their website, explained the product failure, and requested a refund. A day or two later I got an email from Bill at Gore, who requested that I mail him the boots for testing (at my expense).

I mail him the boots (along with my original EMS receipt), he confirms the leak, and asks me what kind of boots I want. I believe Gore will typically send you whatever Gore-Tex boots you want as replacements (any brand and model they can get their hands on). However, Bill later realized that I already asked for a simple refund, so that is the route we went. If I had requested new, more expensive boots, I don't know if I would have had to pay any difference in cost (I suspect not).

Bill tells me that my refund check will arrive in ~3 weeks, and it did. They refunded my original purchase price including shipping (but not the shipping cost to Gore).

So while Gore-Tex did not actually keep me dry indefinitely in this case, Gore did hold up the financial end of their guarantee. Knowing this will be especially handy if I purchase Gore-Tex products from stores with more strict return policies than REI or EMS.

PostedAug 14, 2009 at 7:17 pm

good to hear about your experience Ben, i really love some of the customer service in the outdoor industry. I do work at an EMS as a "foot guru" and if you were to return the boot, we would do either two things. we would have just gotten you a new pair of boots, then RTV (return to vendor)your old boots as a defective product. Or, if the boots were just plain shot, and we were being lazy that day, we sometimes just chuck the boots and give you a new pair. either way, as long as the customer is happy, that's worth more then the 50$ loss that EMS has to pay.
mike!

PostedAug 14, 2009 at 8:34 pm

Yes, it helps. Nobody does though, I myself just chuck the old GTX shoes out the window and let street cleaners deal with it. That's because I'm really upset with the "guaranteed for life" promise.

Most GTX running footwear begins to leak in less than 8 months of regular use. The leaking happens at the points of harmonica compression at the top of shoes. Must be the repetitive overfolding and subsequent destruction of the GTX membrane.

Ok, I understand that. But "guaranteed for life"? What a fad!

PostedAug 14, 2009 at 8:52 pm

The leaking happens at the points of harmonica compression at the top of shoes

That's what I've found. It's at the base of the toe area where the shoe bends and creases as you walk. The repeated stress on the fabric seems to cause the leaking, and sometimes it happens pretty quickly. It often seems to depend on the individual shape of someone's foot, and how much pressure is exerted in this area. All I know is I haven't had much luck with GTX membranes, but my father has had a pair for 4 years or so which is still going strong.

Ben R BPL Member
PostedAug 15, 2009 at 4:54 am

I always keep my receipts, for products of value that may break. Now that I buy most things on the internet, I print online receipts to a PDF file and save it on my computer. And I am even more anal about backing up my computer.

I will note that Gore did not actually request my receipt. It may not have been needed, but certainly made a refund easy.

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