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TRT – 2 Strangers / 4 Days

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t.darrah BPL Member
PostedAug 12, 2009 at 5:33 pm

BPL member Aaron Z and I are planning to hike the TRT starting August 20 at the Tahoe City TH and cover the trail clockwise.

We are planning on four days requiring an average of just over 40 miles per day. I have posted my 09 TRT Gear List with my Profile and Aaron will likely do the same. We will resupply one time, at the Tramway Market, which is roughly the half way point.

On completion Aaron will be posting the TR with the trip originally being his idea.

Having never even met, let alone hike together, we will likely complete the hike friends for life, think positive!

Ken Helwig BPL Member
PostedAug 12, 2009 at 6:40 pm

and Thom you guys will. Trust me, we have had many hikes in teh SF Bay Area and many of us do other hikes with just a few members. Have fun on the hike

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedAug 13, 2009 at 6:28 am

Coming into the trip at a late date much of the trip planning has been completed by Aaron. As for myself, I've just been hustling to catch up and be ready to hike (hopefully not a reflection of things to come). Coordinating family and work obligations along with corresponding and planning with Aaron, regarding the trip details, has been an adventure in and of itself. We will meet for the first time on the 19th for the drive south from Oregon.

I appreciate Aaron's invitation to join him for this hike and will make every effort to ensure a successful completion. I, as the old guy, will do my best to match Aaron's pace.

PostedAug 13, 2009 at 7:44 am

Thom,
Lifting from Skurka's AWMC article –

As he unpacked his raft on the Skilak's braids he donned a fuzzy red Viking hat with blue horns, looked at his competition (which included the then twenty-one-year-old Roman Dial), and said, "You may be fast, but you young guys eat too much and don't know nothin'. Old age and treachery conquer youth and skill any day!"

Fear not old man. You will do well.

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedAug 13, 2009 at 9:49 am

I'm pushing hard to catch up even before the hike begins.

I have my four days of food ready to go.

Food: 4 Days Food

We will start with two days of food and resupply at the half way point with food for day's 3 & 4.

Day 3 & 4 Food.

Below is my drop box ready to ship out today.

Drop Box

The pictures above reflect a diet of 3,500 +/- calories per day.

PostedAug 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

This should be one heck of a journey in nearly every aspect.

Got my resupply package out this morning, securing my confirmation # for the TRT.
2 days Food

Boxed and ready to go

Now it's time to watch the weather,asses gear choices, and prepare for an amazing adventure. Thanks to BPL for pushing the messege of UL travel and providing a forum for like minded people to do their thang.
-Aaron

Zack Karas BPL Member
PostedAug 13, 2009 at 11:28 am

I hope you guys have a great time. I live in Tahoe City, and while it seems you'll have a car, if I can help out please let me know.

Also, last week I hiked the TRT from Velma Lakes area to my home (almost due south of Watson Lake) and the mosquitoes north of the Velmas to the Barker Pass area were surprisingly annoying. Just a heads up that they are still very much alive.

PostedAug 13, 2009 at 11:51 am

Dave,
Oh it's ON! Jedi like mindstate =)

Zach,
Thanks for the heads up on the mosquitoes and offering your help; Very Nice! We'll keep that in mind. I might add a GG mini dropper of Deet for those buzzing fools.

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedAug 14, 2009 at 7:51 pm

I took the time to take pictures of my gear that I will be using on the trip. My 09 TRT gear list can be viewed on my BPL Profile.

TRT Gear

The pack I will be using is a custom MLD mix between a Prophet and a Revelation.

The gear in the center starting from the top is my Spirit MLD 50 quilt, below this is a custom MLD spectralite Grace Solo tarp, the orange stuff sack is my stakes and ground cover (by oware) and in the lower stuff sack is my MLD Soul bivy.

Below the bivy is my ID eVent rain jacket (bottom), my BPL wool hoody and a Patagonia Houdini.

To the left is my 09 Torsolite pad, my trusted LT3 poles and a small first aid kit. Below the first aid kit is an extra pair of Defeet Aireator socks, Defeet Handskins (lite gloves) and a Patagonia alpine cap. Above the first aid kit is my headlamp.

My BPW without food and water is just slightly over 6 lbs., I could go lighter but this setup has performed well and I will stay with a proven system for this adventure.

Pack Loaded - Side View

Pack Loaded - Front View

The pictures above are the pack fully loaded with all the gear as shown along with the first two days of food, 1L Platypus of water, and in the side pockets 2 – 20 oz bottles.

Based upon the weather forecast before starting on the 20th I may elect to add a set of tights for additional warmth when sleeping.

PostedAug 14, 2009 at 9:24 pm

This a valiant effort to make this trail in less 4 days. I really like your pack. In a sense, I appreciate your desire to go with such a minimal pack for 165 miles. Hope it works out for you! Really glad you had to choose Powerbar products for your quest, they are the best for real long distance. Clif Bars Mojo's are ok, but hard to eat when in the later stages. If possible, work on your Clifs in the beginning and use Powerbar when it really counts.

Tights are extremely important. Don't underestimate the extra weight. Don't bring the parachute pants, tights are better at moisture management and weight reduction. Nobody cares that you look like a ballet performer at night. This is your cutting egde.

Good luck!

PostedAug 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm

This is great. I can keep my baseweight in the vicinity of 16.5 pounds and keep up with you. Sounds like a lot, but I don't really see the the difference between 5 lbs and 20 lbs, being a big guy and all. It's all the same for me. Unless you want to go 60 mile days. Then I'll have to reconsider. I'd love to go hiking. This is what my life is all about. Let me know if UL is really at 2 lbs base weight and hiking long for you instead of something that everybody here on BPL does – 12 miles at the most in two days… Then you you have a LD hiking partner.

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedAug 14, 2009 at 10:19 pm

M Popov,
Thanks for the encouragement and advise. I welcome both equally.

Many on this site would likely consider my UL 6 lb base weight (without food and water) as somewhat on the heavy side. The gear has been tested over tough terrain and long miles and the system works well for me (as does the diet).

I will consider your advise and may swap out some of the bars or just add a few extra PowerBars. My drop box has already shipped but I can still change, and or add to, days 1 & 2. PowerGel has always worked well for me.

PostedAug 14, 2009 at 10:37 pm

Here's a few pics of some of the gear i'll be using on the TRT starting next week.

Evertyhing layed out; Gossamer Gear Murmur,SMD Wild Oasis, BMW Torsolite, JRB No Sniveller, Flex Air dual chamber pillow, 2 days food,and a S cuben fiber ss for first aid kit, sunscreen, stakes(6), 1 pair merino wool liner socks, BPL Hoody, BPL bottoms/tights, and 45' of kelty triptease.
Everything layed out

This one shows it all packed inside the Murmur. My BPW is just over 6 lbs for this hikePacked and ready

PostedAug 15, 2009 at 10:26 am

Michael Popov said:

"Let me know if UL is really at 2 lbs base weight and hiking long for you instead of something that everybody here on BPL does – 12 miles at the most in two days… Then you you have a LD hiking partner."

Yah guys, I'm with Michael. Get back to me when you get that 7 lbs. base weight to 2 lbs. =)

But seriously, have fun Thom and Aaron.

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedAug 23, 2009 at 10:49 am

The End:
Sitting just above the Kingsbury North Trailhead in the early evening breeze and fading light I waited for Aaron to come into view. I knew the conversation we needed to have and the tough decision that we would need to make. I had worked through the options available to us for much of the day, it was time to talk them through.

The pace and mileage required to meet the trip goals were aggravating a preexisting knee injury and Aaron was having more and more difficulty in keeping up. Being the older, more experienced, hiker I knew it was my responsibility to initiate the conversation that was now required.

As Aaron sat down next to me and took in the view below I struggled with how to start. I commended Aaron for pushing himself harder then most could without ever speaking of stopping and/or complaining. I stated that even though we were close to being on schedule I felt the trip would be difficult, at best, to complete as planned.

I told Aaron that I felt we had three options and having started the trip as a team we would need to make the required decision together, as a team. Option 1: We could resupply at Tramway (just below us, we could now see the homes and roof tops) as planned and push on but that to maintain the required mileage would demand hiking both later into the night and starting the remaining days earlier. This would mean less sleep and time to recover each of the remaining two days. Option 2: Aaron could leap frog ahead to either the Echo Lake or Barker Pass Trailhead and wait for me to arrive allowing him time to rest and recover. He could then finish the forth and final day with me. Option 3: Stop together at Tramway and arrange for a way to get back to our starting point at the Tahoe City Trailhead.

After working through the options together we elected to stop together, the way we started, as a team.

Meeting:
Aaron pulled into my driveway, in Klamath Falls, just before 6:00 am on Wednesday, the 19th. He was right on time and ready to go, a great start to a true adventure. As we loaded his gear I hoped that his excitement and energy would be well matched by my discipline and dogged determination (my wife would likely refer to this as pigheadedness). The drive down to Tahoe was an enjoyable trip filled with talk of hiking, UL gear and all things related. We arrived in Tahoe City, located our starting point, the Tahoe City Trailhead, and checked into the hotel to relax and rest for the trip ahead.

Day 1:
Beginning at the Tahoe City Trailhead at 5:00 a.m. we hiked clockwise and upward to the trails high point of Relay Peak and then continued on to camp #1 beyond Tahoe Meadows. This was a tough and demanding first day covering just over 42 trail miles. A navigational error made late in the day, coming off Relay Peak, added roughly 5 tough miles to our day putting us well over 45 miles total. This was the first of three such errors, each having a true and lasting impact on our hike. The added miles and time walking, if on course, would have put us ahead of schedule and would have had a positive and rewarding effect. Being that the time and energy was spent correcting direction and backtracking, these errors were likely the beginning of the end.

Relay Peak

The view from high on Relay Peak just prior to making our first big navigational error of Day 1.

(This trip was a spontaneous trip for me – getting my map only Monday (the 17th) prior to driving down to Tahoe the 19th. This lack of preparation increased the likelihood of navigational errors, navigational errors that did occur. The resulting effects of these errors had an impact on the trips outcome. A lesson learned the hard way.)

Day 2:
The pace and added mileage to Day 1 were felt on the morning of Day 2. We set out strong and positive, even though I had bruised the bottom of both feet and Aaron was showing signs early on of knee problems. The trail ahead would take us up and over Marlette Lake and then drop us down to the Spooner Summit Trailhead, we would then continue on to Kingsbury North Trailhead via the climb up and over South Camp Peak.

Aaron struggled early with the pace and terrain, the distance between us reflecting the effort. Arriving at J18 we (I) made Day 2's big navigational error. This mistake again resulted in an added 5 miles, in tough terrain, that we could little afford. Having corrected course we continued down to Spooner Summit. Hiking ahead of Aaron I came up on two locals out day hiking to prepare for an upcoming trip to Half Dome, Tahoe Dave and Nevada Dave. They asked if they could hike with me if able to keep pace and I welcomed the company. They were very impressed and interested in the gear being carried and the 4 miles were spent talking with Dave and Dave about UL gear and the BPL site.

Above Marlette Lake

This was the view from above Marlette Lake just before descending to J18.

The section of trail was demanding and dry. After saying goodbye to Tahoe Dave I continued down to Spooner Lake, below Spooner Summit Trailhead, with Nevada Dave. I assessed the water quality and was not impressed. The lake was disgusting and even in my dehydrated and parched state I could not bring myself to fill and treat my water bottles and bladders. Nevada Dave offered to take me to the other side of the lake to get water from a park building and return for Aaron. As we climbed back up to the summit trailhead there stood Aaron. I was truly impressed with his perseverance and ability to continue a strong pace under very tough and demanding conditions.

Aaron and I thanked Nevada Dave for his help as we said goodbye upon returning to the trail and we rested at the road side for a short time prior to continuing on. Aaron's trip report will surely speak to the generosity and helpfulness of multiple locals while on our hike. We were both impressed, and entertained, multiple times by the local outdoor enthusiast. We met hikers, trail runners and mountain bikers. All were friendly, helpful and outgoing.

Hiking up and over South Pass Peak Aaron continued to push hard and suffer in silence. I struggled with and worked through the options that lay ahead while continuing to set a pace which would allow us the option of success. This was not to be.

Each time I would stop and wait it was increasingly evident that we would be required to re-assess our goals.

In Closing:
Aaron was a true warrior, and I told him so on more than one occasion. Not one time did he ever complain or offer excuse; he was strong, prepared and willing to suffer.

We both returned home better and stronger for the experience. The trips positives far out weighted the negative final result and I believe we both feel that the trip was worth the effort required.

I speak only for myself in the words above and I'm sure Aaron will share his thoughts also prior to posting a trip report with pictures.

I would like to thank Aaron for allowing me the opportunity to join him on this trip and truly appreciate the effort he put forth.

Facts:

Time on trail: 38 hours (5:00 am on the 20th to 7:00 pm on the 21st)

Miles hiked (including errors): 85 – 90 miles

Elevation climb (not including errors): 13,775'

Elevation drop (not counting errors): 12,275'

Note: The navigational errors were made in tough and demanding terrain resulting in not only added miles but also additional climbing and descending.

Gear:

Pack & Poles - 1

Pack & Poles - 2

Like most of my recent trips I used a custom MLD pack and gg LT3 poles for this trip.

Camp -  Picture 1

Camp - Picture 2

I also used my MLD Soul bivy along with a Spirit 50 quilt and 09 Torsolite pad.

Jay Wilkerson BPL Member
PostedAug 23, 2009 at 11:50 am

Cool trip report Thom!! The TRT is alot of fun-The only down side of the TRT (for me) is too much civilization. It is not like the JMT(remote)…But it seems like you guys definitely had a adventure!!!

-Jay

Jonathan Ryan BPL Member
PostedNov 25, 2009 at 10:28 am

can't beleive I missed this trip report. Great attempt guys. My wife and I did the same on the JMT this last summer. Made a goal that just did not work for us once we got going. Def builds character and motivation to try again.

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedNov 25, 2009 at 11:30 am

A return trip is already included in my 2010 hiking schedule.

Tony Wong BPL Member
PostedNov 25, 2009 at 11:57 am

Thom,

How many days are you planning on taking to complete your return to the TRT?

This past summer Jay, Jeremy, Cameron, and I did it in 9 days.

Can not imagine what it would be like doing it in half the time!

Great report and a lot of heart in gutting it out.

Good luck to you on your return trip and thanks for sharing.

-Tony

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedNov 25, 2009 at 12:19 pm

I will return to the TRT with the same goal and basic plan. This may or may not be a solo effort, this I hope will be decided by early spring.

PostedNov 25, 2009 at 1:34 pm

Hey Tony,

Speaking for myself…

I would like to go back to the TRT this summer and nail this hike with our original goal(4days).=)
I feel this is totally doable and will even be a fun pace; the suffering, pain, and challenge just make it that much more of an experience/jaunt.
TRT 09

Things learned from first attempt and gear changes

-simplify diet(power bars,jerky,and nuts!! That's it-less food too-2,000 cal/day
-correct footware issues(minimalist footware and insoles no match for this kind of mileage; IMO my poor choice in footware led to the knee pains, which ended our first hike)
-change shelter and sleep system(lighter quilt,bivy+tarp combo instead of Wild Oasis)Much more flexible/versitile shelter option IMO.
-change pack(I love the GG Murmur, but i will add a few ounces next time around and bring my Conduit or Prophet; the foam shoulder pads that came with the Murmmur are a little to thin for my liking-leason learned.

Did you ever do a TR from your TRT hike?

Happy Holidays,

A

t.darrah BPL Member
PostedNov 25, 2009 at 2:17 pm

It could work out that Aaron and I team up for this adventure again. We each will need to decide if a joint effort allows for the greatest chance of meeting personal goals and trip expectations.

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