i put 11th – 17th on the permit, but if we are good to go out via lamarck, we could out 16th or even 15th depending on pace & preferences
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we can decide game day
my biggest concern is partial melt over steep talus/boulder areas – breaking through thin snow/ice and/or falling into a small hole or crack could be very bad in a number of visualized scenarios
also – if darwin canyon/lakes still frozen, i don't see the point; we will be close, though, and just after ice-out is probably best time for big goldens
and the ranger said route finding would be very tough until melt is close to normal summer conditions through the col
Richard, thanks for your offer. That is very generous of you. Dunno if we will need a few axes or not. Since your from our area, if you ever want to join us on our hikes, let me know.
been watching the Sierra weather reports and it has been quite hot up there. Cary here's to hoping that we have sufficient melt so that we can go through Darwin Canyon!!!
generally good, though these temps won't mean a super fast melt – hopefully the direct sun will have a strong effect on surface snow & ice: at that altitude, the UV is powerful
Independence Day: Sunny, with a high near 48. South wind between 5 and 8 mph.
Tonight: Clear, with a low around 33. South wind between 5 and 7 mph.
Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 50. South southwest wind between 3 and 11 mph.
Sunday Night: Clear, with a low around 33. Southwest wind between 9 and 13 mph.
Monday: Sunny, with a high near 48. Southwest wind between 8 and 15 mph.
Monday Night: Clear, with a low around 30.
Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 50.
Tuesday Night: Clear, with a low around 28.
Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 46.
Wednesday Night: Clear, with a low around 27.
Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 47.
Thursday Night: Clear, with a low around 29.
Friday: Sunny, with a high near 48.
Independence Day: Sunny, with a high near 50. South southwest wind between 8 and 10 mph.
Tonight: Clear, with a low around 35. South wind between 3 and 11 mph.
Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 52. South southwest wind between 5 and 11 mph.
Sunday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 35. Southwest wind between 9 and 11 mph.
Monday: Sunny, with a high near 50. Southwest wind between 8 and 14 mph.
Monday Night: Clear, with a low around 32.
Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 52.
Tuesday Night: Clear, with a low around 31.
Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 49.
Wednesday Night: Clear, with a low around 30.
Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 50.
Thursday Night: Clear, with a low around 31.
Friday: Sunny, with a high near 52.
Independence Day: Sunny, with a high near 69. South wind between 5 and 8 mph.
Tonight: Clear, with a low around 37. South southwest wind between 3 and 8 mph.
Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 70. South southwest wind between 3 and 10 mph.
Sunday Night: Clear, with a low around 37. Southwest wind between 9 and 11 mph.
Monday: Sunny, with a high near 68. Southwest wind between 7 and 14 mph.
Monday Night: Clear, with a low around 34.
Tuesday: Sunny, with a high near 68.
Tuesday Night: Clear, with a low around 34.
Wednesday: Sunny, with a high near 65.
Wednesday Night: Clear, with a low around 33.
Thursday: Sunny, with a high near 67.
Thursday Night: Clear, with a low around 34.
Friday: Sunny, with a high near 69.
anyone else interested please contact me
ken – i have your email
dave? email?
topics to cover/consider this week:
***potential community gear: pot/stove/water filter
***plan b/c & other options so we are on same page
***trail departure is saturday afternoon – doing short hike in first night to help allow for acclimation. ken – you are still picking me up, right? coming friday night or sat morning?
***bear canisters required
***ice axe/crampon/etc. ???
***low temps around freezing, could go a little below
***fishing license/gear
"My friend and I just day hiked to just below Lamarck Col yesterday (7-3-2009). There were three large snow fields to cross which we easily did up and down w/out axe or crampons. A little soft in some places and didn't see any ice. The snow extends from the lake to notch of the Col. We didn't go up to the notch at the col proper, but did see one backpacker coming down w/out axe. Many foot prints coming down the col from two notches. The snow is melting fast so at the end of July wouldn't think it would be much of a problem unless it's icy."
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Hey Guys,
Looks like a great trip but I won't be able to make it. New Job and the 10th is partner's Birthday, so just too much going on. Cary, your mini-crampons are on their way, and don't forget to take lots of photos!
i'm thinking trout & pasta for one dinner, so you can plan accordingly
i think i'll bring one large pot we can share for boiling water & will use it for the pasta
i have a snowpeak canister stove we can all share – one should be good with a big pot for water, yea?
I have a snowpeak too. Should I bring a cannister?
Since I don't do chemicals, I can bring my hyperflow.
Bear Cannisters…I have 3
Cary Sat. morning…what time do you want me to pick you up. Email me your address.
Dave..Could you drive too???? We need a shuttle since this is not a perfect loop. Is that ok????
I am still leaning bringing my ice ax……
do you have a large cannister?
i'm thinking 2 large canisters would probably do it for the trip
small one. Could get a large if nescessary. I do cold breakfast's ala salami, cheese, nuts, things like that. The only time I boil is for dinner
Cary and Ken,
I can drive so we can shuttle. I will likely go over 120 to get to 395 since I am coming from the Central Valley. Perhaps one of you can suggest a good meet up location on the east side.
I have a large Bear Vault that I don't mind carrying.
Sharing a stove would great. I will bring a fuel canister and we can decide if we need it. I usually boil for breakfast and dinner but its all rehydrating food, not cooking.
I can dehydrate at least one meal to share that would complement a trout dinner. Does some combination of seasoning, vegetables and couscous sound okay?
I have purchased a telescopic rod and reel but I dont have any line on it. 2 questions: Is there a preferred type on line I should look for and would either of you be able to assist me with installing the line?
My email is davidwage@gmail.com
-Dave
Dave, why don't we meet at the gas station on the right side on Hwy 120 that has a great restaurant. Man I forgot the name of it. It has a trapoline out front, and an amazing restaurant there too. It is at the intersection of Hwy 120 and Hwy 395. Maybe someone reading this will know the name of the gas station?
ready to go tomorrow morning. Hike of a lifetime. South Lake, over Muir Pass up to Darwin Bench to Darwin Canyon, over Lamarck Col and down to N. Lake. Yes!!!!! Pictures will follow later this week.
Have fun Ken!!! TRT was a lot of work to say the least!!!! There is definitely a difference between Backpacking and Thru-Hiking!!!!!!
Darwin Bench and Lakes
Looking down from Bishop Pass
Thanks Jay! It is going to be tough. Heard that Muir Pass is snowed in at 11,500 and Lamarck is also going to be interesting.
how did the TRT go????? Since you had both you and Tony, I assume pics to follow??????
Thank you Cary for putting together the trip and Ken for driving and the companionship. This trip was equally entertaining and challenging and overall, my best hiking experience I have had. You two are both class hiking partners. Although my feet are in a world of hurt at the moment, I look forwad to the next trip.
Searching for the Col.
Finally found it!
Panorama of the east side of the Col. The Col and path are on the far left.
More pictures to come.
Don't be stingy with the photos, y'all! Been waiting to see what I missed out on….glad to hear you guys had a good time.
you missed an awesome trip though. Ken & Dave – I can't thank you enough for helping me through my elevation sickness.
when i felt good, which was actually much of the time, this was the most incredible trip ever, largely because Ken & Dave were such wonderful and gracious trail companions, but i can't discount the sheer awesome magnitude of the beauty of this part of the john muir wilderness. also, we met and encountered some truly amazing individuals on this trip, including an apparent 2nd cousin through marriage of Dave's!
it was also some of the steepest stuff i've ever been on – lamarck col is much harder than shepherd pass.
i just got back & will post some pics tomorrow.
My feet hurt………………….still
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