Mar 25, 2009 at 5:14 pm #1235085
This is thread is the same that I posted on another site, just spreadin' the word ;)
I've seen posts about "does color matter?"… well to me it does, for many reasons, I like to blend in and not be a neon sign walking through nature, so the foregoing is how I dyed my SIX MOON DESIGNS TRAVELER all black…
I first sent Brandon Moak an email, asking if he had any experience dying his packs, he did not… so i researched "dyneema" found out the pack was not 100% dyneema by a hybrid textile made with mainly nylon… GREAT! because although you cannot dye dyneema, nylon you can defiantly dye using RIT, found here:
You can find RIT dye anywhere, safeway, longs, walgreens, walmart, target..
So I LOVE the SMD traveler, great features, great design, low weight, LOVE THE EXTERIOR PAD POUCH (it allows easy access during brakes, I keep my sleep pad and big agnes UL camp chair assembled and folded in the pocket, so i have a padded chair at all times)
BUT… I hate the color! to be honest i almost went to a ULA pack for this reason, but I went traveler, and im glad I did!
How did I do it?
I'm a homebrewer, so i decided to use my mash tun to do the dying, its stainless steel so not worried about dying the thing black… heres what it looks like:
So i put the kettle on my stove top, this is because i know it will not boil (when I make beer its on a separate sculpture, thats all electrically fired, anywho) I ADDED 2 BOTTLES OF BLACK RIT DYE, TO APPROX. 6 GALLONS OF WATER, brought the temp to 130F turned off the burner, I should note, that while the water was warming up, i was in my living room taking the hipbelt and shoulder straps off, unzipped everything, I also cinched down the whole thing by connecting the shoulder strap bottom tensioner to the load lifters on top, this made a compact taco looking package. Then with a nod to the gods, submerged my beloved pack into the now steaming black water, fingers crossed, I stirred and stirred. ONE HOUR LATER, I precariously lifted the now all black pack out, took it outside, rinsed with a garden hose till the water ran clear, a smile from ear to ear! :) my pack is now black, not the white dyneema threads of course, but all nylon took the dye perfectly! I hung it up in my shower with a fan on it, and a few hours later reassembled the hipbelt and shoulder straps, job done!
Thanks for reading, hope this helps someone :)Mar 25, 2009 at 5:20 pm #1488814
@maynard76Locale: New England
Thats cool.Mar 25, 2009 at 5:24 pm #1488819
Christopher MillsBPL Member
Did you find that any of the dye transferred to your clothing after sweating through, or was it totally colorfast?Mar 25, 2009 at 5:42 pm #1488826
Tom CaldwellBPL Member
I would also like to know about the dye holding in the pack, without leaching. I suppose this would work on a ULA also?Mar 25, 2009 at 5:56 pm #1488833
Nice work Jesse, the pack looks great!
I'm interested in your opinion of how the pack carries. How much weight do you generally carry, and what pad do you use as a frame? Do you find the hipbelt comfortable? Do you use the stays?
Sorry for all the questions, but there are very few SMD traveller users around so I've only heard one opinion from a BPL user so far ('wanderingbob'). He was very positive about it, but I'd like to hear a few more points of view because we are all different. Is there any area where the pack is lacking or could be improved?
Thanks in advance!! – AshleyMar 25, 2009 at 5:59 pm #1488835
@jasonklassLocale: Parker, CO
Wow, that's great! I also like SMD packs but don't like the colors. Nice to know this is an option. Thanks for posting this!Mar 25, 2009 at 6:04 pm #1488838
so far no problems, I did this about 6 days ago, and every night I throw on the pack with my 3 day setup, and "urban hike" around the hills in my area, so I can say i have got the back quite wet and so far nothing, to better address this issue I may apply this stuff:
I'm assuming its a similar treatment, possibly even a cold one, another thing I'd like to not about this little project is I don't think you need such a big vassal, as I doubt we all have 8 gallon pots laying around… another method would be to decant hotter watter (160f-190f) to a 5 gallon bucket and do this.. .Mar 25, 2009 at 6:53 pm #1488856
Thanks a lot for all your kind words… LONG TIME lurker here… figure I owe the community :)
ASHLEYB, I also don't understand why there is so little about this pack for me its great…
my 3 day 3 season 3 liter of h2o pack with my huge camera and food and snacks weighs in at 21.5 lbs! ;) but pictures are worth a thousand words… here's some I just took, again hope this helps…
heres the pack layin' down (molly approved btw)
contents of pack:
Back, unzipped, exposing pad:
To get the pad out you have to pull it to the side and lift out, illustrated here:
Here is what the pad and chair combo look like when the come out of the pack, this is their stored configuration:
Chair/pad combo, just unfold and sit :)
Hope those help, if anyone has any more questions, feel free to askMar 25, 2009 at 7:09 pm #1488860
Thanks Jesse, I always appreciate pics of gear!
What kind of pad is that you're using? I assume it is closed cell foam pad of some sort (not inflatable?). I use an inflatable PE thermo so not sure whether that would work so well (apparently it can be a bit "bouncy").
How do you find the hipbelt? It looks thinner than the one on a ULA circuit (and I think wanderingbob confirmed this) but is it still plenty comfortable?
Hmmmm. One day I am going to have actually make up my mind on what my next pack is going to be. I've been trying to decide for ages, because there's no pack that has all the features I want! =-)Mar 25, 2009 at 8:23 pm #1488871
the pad is thermarest prolite small.. the one that just came out… although i see a neoair in my future, when they drop… the hipbelt is feine… I've noticed looser is betterMar 25, 2009 at 9:12 pm #1488881
Joe ClementBPL Member
I want to see on that says "How I tie-dyed my SMD Traveler Pack.Mar 25, 2009 at 9:20 pm #1488884
joe, thats the next project, just need strong rubber bands…LOLApr 2, 2009 at 10:45 am #1490677
Can we do this with ULA??? Is it the same material as the SMD??Apr 2, 2009 at 4:56 pm #1490802
Im pretty sure ULA uses the same fabric, but im not 100% the color isnt that bad on it though….Apr 2, 2009 at 9:39 pm #1490892
I did it. I'll post some pics when the sun comes back up, it worked great so far.Apr 2, 2009 at 9:55 pm #1490899
Im gonna give you props on the idea on Whiteblaze too, you should come over for a minute if your not already there. Same name, homeade forum. Posting picturesApr 3, 2009 at 2:01 am #1490919
I just had a long crappy night bartending, and you just put a smile on my face…
can't wait to see the pics…
what did you use for the container to dye…
also I've been to whiteblaze.. awesome site.. not a member, just a LONG TIME lurker.. like I was here…Apr 3, 2009 at 5:05 pm #1491071
Ben 2 WorldBPL Member
@ben2worldLocale: So Cal
Jesse — very nice!!!
Now where's Michael Reid? Where are his pics?
I too dislike the color of ULA (although not as bad as SMD) — and I wonder if the ULA can be dyed with an olive color — like the old Golite Jam pack???Apr 3, 2009 at 6:02 pm #1491084
if you can find the dye.. remember, it will dye all NYLON… POLYESTER will not dye, which can be nice to create some definition… but the golite jam looks great!, also hes got a few pics up on whiteblaze, check it out under "homemade gear"Jul 21, 2012 at 1:20 am #1896383
Safe to say we this works! cant believe its been this long, no fading or staining! and this I still my go to pack, albeit just for longer trips after thinning out the bulk! dye your packs and gear to color you like folks! I'd love to see some data on the effect of using this dye on items with insulation however!Jul 21, 2012 at 7:04 am #1896412
Ken T.BPL Member
My Ohm is holding up well too Jesse. I was surprised to see that it has been this long as well. We look so good on the trail sportin' our black packs : )
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