Jul 8, 2008 at 10:43 am #1230059
@dgpostonLocale: Texas / Colorado
I know that a razorblade is about the lightest option (aside from your teeth), but is there a knife with a decent size blade weighing around 0.5 oz or less? My current blade is a cheap Gerber pocketknife weighing in at 1.44 oz. I'm looking to shave off another ounce from my kit.Jul 8, 2008 at 11:03 am #1442001
Looks like the Buck Hartsook will fit your bill. Its 1/2oz, S30V and pretty cheap. There's been quite a few threads about ultralight knives already. Try to do a search for it.Jul 8, 2008 at 11:05 am #1442002
@rinconLocale: Desert Southwest
I carry either a Victorinox Classic or Executive. The Classic seems to be the "standard" pocket knife for lightweight hikers. It only weighs 0.75 oz with a blade, scissors, file/screwdriver, tweezers and tooth pick. The Executive weighs 1.5 oz, has two blades, a file/fingernail cleaner, scissors, an orange peeler(?), tweezers and toothpick. I carry the Executive on longer trips because of the 2nd (backup) blade but mostly take the Classic to save the 3/4 oz.
I have tried tricks like using 1/2 of a double edge razor blade (<0.5 g) but find that the safety and convenience of a real knife is worth the trivial weight penalty.Jul 8, 2008 at 11:14 am #1442004
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@sdwhiteyLocale: Smoky Mountains
If I want real knife I carry a Benchmade 530 Pardue Axis (1.8 oz)
If I really want to go light I just carry the scissors and tweezers from a Victorinox SwissCard Lite (0.2 oz). Add the blade and you are up to (0.4 oz)Jul 8, 2008 at 11:22 am #1442006
@scottalanpLocale: Northern California
One vote for the Columbia River (CRKT) PECK knife. I believe I got the smallest one they make off steepandcheap for $17 and it weighs in at .4 oz.
I misplaced this knife recently and took the smallest multi-tool made on my last trip and did find the pliers incredible useful for quick removal of trebel hooks from the multitude of trout I snagged….Jul 8, 2008 at 11:24 am #1442007
check out this article that BPL did awhile ago
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/ultralight_knives.htmlJul 8, 2008 at 1:07 pm #1442016
@dangLocale: Pacific Northwet
I like the spyderco jester, 0.6 oz.Jul 8, 2008 at 3:52 pm #1442051
While I admire ultra lighters ….. I prefer to carry something that is meant for work. A teeny tiny .5 knife just won't do in emergency scenario's. I am a knife buff so I have a few. Almar is a good one. Spyderco's are great. The Lady bug is very light and useful. I usually take something that I know will stand up to all situations, from bear attacks to spreading peanut butter. Can't imagine what it's like to try a cut pack webbing in an emergency situation with a .5 ounce plain blade of whatever make. I guess it's the mine rescue emergency response team experience that has thinking this way.Jul 9, 2008 at 6:52 am #1442134
@splproductionsLocale: Salt Lake City, UT
I use the Spyderco Ladybug, 0.6oz. I have rarely used it in the field though, just because I never really have a need to. I would be a little worried about being in a survival situation with it though – like the previous poster said, sometimes you want a knife that can actually do "work". I sometimes will carry the Gerber EVO Titanium. It gives me a little more comfort.Jul 9, 2008 at 10:51 am #1442165
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
I carry a Benchmade 530, which isn't UL. At 1.8oz, I could get by with less knife, but, paraphrasing Roman Dial from another thread, 'we mainly pack our insecurities'. I like having a knife that is sturdy enough to split wood, can be lashed into a stick for use as a spear, and is sharp enough to shave hair before taping up wounds. None of these uses are essential, just personally comforting.
Mainly I use the knife to slice meats and cheeses for lunch and dinner. The knife see action almost every lunch, and twenty percent of dinners, so it's not a dead weight item that never gets used. I figure if I can safely eat lunch a minute or so faster with the bigger knife, I've freed up enough time to offset any distance lost from packing the extra weight.Jul 9, 2008 at 10:58 am #1442166
@slnsfLocale: Northern California
I use a Victorinox Classic with no scales – just a bare frame. Weighs next to nothing, and I find I use the scissors more than the blade.
I like nicer, heavier knives too – I have a Delica 4 in VG-10 and one in ZDP-189, and a Rosselli Grandfather, to name a few – but I just don't find them worth carrying for the vast majority of my trips.Jul 9, 2008 at 3:24 pm #1442217
@dgpostonLocale: Texas / Colorado
How much does the Benchmade 530 weigh with the carry clip removed? I like the spear-point blade.
(I think "lightening up" is really just another excuse for me to buy another knife).Jul 9, 2008 at 3:31 pm #1442220
@sdwhiteyLocale: Smoky Mountains
I wish I knew. I want to remove the clip but the little screws require some sort of "star" shaped tool that I don't have. A standard flathead, phillips, or hex tool won't work.
Maybe I gave up too easily. I don't know.
ScottJul 9, 2008 at 3:58 pm #1442224
I'll go home and measure the weight of my Benchmade Mini-Ritter clip. I'll let you guys know.
As for the special hex/allen "star" shape screw… you can request a tool from Kershaw for free. (They have amazing customer service).Jul 9, 2008 at 4:19 pm #1442227
@nevadasLocale: California Coast
i use the gerber LST ultralight 2" locking blade. it weighs .5 ounce. and its cheap. they have a bigger version that is only a couple of ounces.
while i agree that it obviously would have limitations it still can perform the following duties: cutting wood, creating a spear head, cutting bandages, etc.– all of which address issues that people advocating a heavier blade cite.
to cut wood you just have to have another piece of wood or rock to use as a hammer but it does work. as a spear head consider the obsidian spear tips native americans used… they arent much bigger than the LST. lash that onto your hiking pole and there you go.
someone above said they carry a bigger knife in the event they have to fight off a bear. good luck with that. you must like that last scene from legends of the fall or something! if your using your knife to eat food with, then youre keeping that on you at night for protection, your asking for a bear problem that probably would never have occurred but for the knife!
i think a knife would be useful if you were attacked by a mountain lion, as they dont have that thick of a hide, whereas bears obviously do. and a lion, once they get cut, will probably realize your not prey and let go. if were talking items to be used as weapons, i think a hiking pole a much better in the backcountry than a knife; it has a much longer reach, a sharp point, etc.Jul 9, 2008 at 5:56 pm #1442244
I estimate the clip weighs 0.15 ounces based on a density for spring steel of 0.26 lbs/in^3 and approximate dimesions of 0.040" X 0.375" X 2.25". So let's say 0.2 ounces with the 3 tiny screws.
The utility of the clip to me is worth the weight.
The Benchmade 530 and Spyderco Delica are my favorite knives for everyday carry and tasks: cutting open boxes, slicing cheese, cutting rope, twiner, etc. The Benchmade is very well made and both are a nice practical size.
My packing list always shows a Victorinox classic, but at the trailhead I never seem to be able to leave the folder in the car. It really bothers me to reach for it out of habit and not have it there.Jul 9, 2008 at 6:11 pm #1442248
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
That gerber LST ultralight 2" is a nice little blade that would meet every need I have for a knife. Wasn't even aware that it was on the market.
I wasn't thinking spear for self protection so much as I've used it to get at fish before.
While probably silly, my knife stays in my food bag or bear bucket at night. I don't think it has enough food on it to be a serious concern. As far as attracting bears, I'm more worried about my pants that sometimes get used as a napkin, or even my backpack itself that has food tucked in various pockets all day long.
The trekking pole is the best defensive thing I carry. Long reach, sure grip, and carbide tip. Should be enough to make it clear I am not prey to any animal. However, I really don't feel like I will be attacked by anything but another person, and they will probably be guarding a crop with more than a long stick.Jul 9, 2008 at 7:21 pm #1442262
you guys are gonna flame the crap outta me, but I carry a skeletool and a sog trident. The fullsize pliers are way too useful for me especially when it's cold out for doing things your fingers would strain to do such as pulling stakes or dealing with small things. And like someone said we pack our insecurities, I take the trident because I've felt very bare without a slightly bigger blade; and that's a step down from the fixed blade I used to carry so I'm happy with it. Yeah it's some extra weight but I only count weight for what's in my pack or may be in my pack and those aren't ever in my pack, they are always on my body and I don't even feel them there.Jul 9, 2008 at 8:28 pm #1442277
@mocs123Locale: Southeast Tennessee
I carry a Gerber LST. It is cheap ($17), relatively light (1.3oz), and made in the USA.Jul 9, 2008 at 11:30 pm #1442295
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
I have two Gerber LSTs.
One is very slim & has serrations on the back 1/3 of the "drop point" blade.
The other has a thicker handle W/ two finger grooves and a plain "drop point" blade.
I use the slim one for dress up occasions(suits or sport coats). The heftier one I take backpacking and for everyday carry.
EricJul 10, 2008 at 4:48 am #1442308
Is a folding blade really a help in an emergency situation in the woods? All of the stress is focused on one pivot point. Most Bushmen prefer a full tang- fixed- high carbon steel blade in a sheath on their belt. ( not the "Rambo" kind, but a small knife the size of a steak knife) I use the Case hunter 05561 with a blaze orange handle – I know it looks funny, but I can find it if I drop it!!
A good read is " 98.6 degrees-how to keep your ass alive in the woods" this book was recommended by a member in a thread about survival kits.
DaveJul 10, 2008 at 5:24 am #1442310
@aroth87Locale: Missouri Ozarks
For me, I don't expect to be in any kind of situation where the need to cut down a tree for shelter or field dress a deer for food is going to arise. All of my hiking is done on trail and my plan for survival is staying put until the next person comes by.
The duties I need my knife to perform are cutting tape or moleskin and maybe trimming loose threads. A razor blade would work perfectly well for me, but truth be told I always bring a folding blade Gerber ARB 3". The biggest reason I carry it is because I have had it in my pocket almost everyday for the past 5 or 6 years. Old habits are hard to break.
AdamJul 10, 2008 at 6:04 am #1442312
I carry a fullsize stainless Swisstool at all times, which is remarkably heavy (something ridiculous like 400g). It has saved my life a number of times and is also really handy for the work I do. There's really something to be said about a hefty pair of pliers and a good blade. I also use it as a hammer since it's a heavy hunk of metal. :)
That being said I just received a Leatherman Micra, which weighs something like 50g. I'm going to use that for backpacking from now on, but my Swisstool will still be with me at any other time. Big multitools are useful, just not as much for UL backpacking.Jul 10, 2008 at 6:17 am #1442314
@andybaileyLocale: The Great Plains
It depends entirely on my trip. If I know the area well and have things well planned out and use an alcohol stove, I take my standard-size Swiss Army knife. If I am taking other gear (particularly my white gas stove), I feel far more comfortable with my Leatherman Wave. I am fairly new to UL, and I am still learning and becoming more comfortable with less, so read this post knowing that there are probably better choices, but this is what I am comfortable with at this point in time.
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