Suggestions 4 Storing Caldera Cone

Stick an elastic band round it and shove it in to a wand pocket or some other outer pocket on your pack. I’m amazed why people struggle to find storage solutions to the cone. Trust me there robust. The burner goes in a ziplock bag in the pan set, simple and light.

What about the sharpish edges? I feel they would cut my wand pockets. I have a Granite Gear Vapor Trail and the stretchy pockets may get mangled… No?

Take a file to it, and smooth over any sharp bits. If still worried try a spare sock to put it in. Or make a small light bag that when you roll it up, attach the band you could then stuff it in to.

Nothing more is needed, honest.

I think I may make a small tyvek bag for it. If it rips I make a new one. I have 9 more meters left :)

Simple,cheap,and works.

Have fun.

I just store mine laid flat in my torsolite. Works fine.

I would never contemplate getting anything as awkward as the Caldera, but either storing it flat in between a sleeping pad (as Phil suggested) or wrapping and rubber banding it around a hard Nalgene bottle is probably the easiest.

I put mine in my cozy I bought directly from the website. I get multiuse from the cozy – not only does it speed up my cooking, it also holds my alcohol, first aid kit, and fire starting kit.

All:

Just wanted to let everybody know that we have just returned from Trail Days. Met a ton of satisfied customers, sold a bunch of new cones and had a wonderful time overall! Thanks to everybody that came by the booth to say hi!

I'm chiming in now to let everybody know about a new product we have been shipping as part of our Caldera Systems for a while now, and publicly announced at Trail Days last week…..the Caldera Caddy. We heard your concerns for some time now….and have been diligently working with a plastic vendor to come up with a solution. What we found, were the folks that make the containers for machine tools like end mills, drill bits, router bits, etc….and had them HUGELY scale up that tube, make it out of food grade plastic, and size it to fit our cones, stove and fuel bottle. Here are some pictures of what we finally came up with:

The threads allow it to expand or contract it to different size cones or other stuff you may want to stick in there. You can use the two ends as a mug or bowl (cozys coming soon) as the plastic is food grade…..and it doesn't distort in hot water.

If you are interested…..check out:
http://www.antigravitygear.com/proddetail.php?prod=TDCADY

Thanks again for all support!

Rand :)

Ben, I disagree . The TiGoat version (as an example) stores in a very space efficient way. Notice that I fit inside a scourer (that is also a base for the stove, to avoid heat loss) , a kitchen cloth,a lighter as well as the 8oz fuel bottle. Not much air space left in there, at the same tome no rattling noises.
Franco
The Caldera Caddy would be a longer lasting version

Franco, you are opening a cone of worms here … beware!!

Franco:

Don't know what there is to agree or disagree with. We all have different preferences. Many of us prefer to have our entire "kitchen" nest inside our compact and light weight cookpot — instead of having to scrounge around for the windscreen that's sandwiched in between our sleeping pad, and /or the fuel container buried somewhere else deep inside our pack.

My entire kitchen — stove, windscreen, lighter, fuel, towel, spork — all fit inside either my FireLite 550 (alcohol stove option) or my Snow Peak 600 (canister stove option). In other words, it's the same as your photo up above — everything inside the pot — but with the lid on and no tall red plastic cup sticking way out.

Each to his or her own, of course.

Sven, worms are loaded with protein, but I carry mine in a thin plastic bag.
Don't use the tiger (eisenia fetida) version for this , they have a terrible taste.
Franco

Coming to think of it, Franco, your set up takes up twice the space as mine — and both are for solo use.

The caldera may be wonderful… but space efficient it is not — unless you pack that awkward cone somewhere else — as mentioned above.

I kinda like gummi worms … stick them on the sharp edges of my caldera cone … not much protein though. Beware of the calderanti bentang version as well … lol
Ooooops … beware of the Chaff forum ….
:-)

Yeah Franco, pack that thing somewhere else, will ya!!

PS: Ben, would you be able to pack all of Franco's stuff more efficiently if you had/were to take all of it?

Svien:

For solo use, I would take my own kit as described above. But as mentioned, we are all different.

Yeah, everyone is different. I think the Caddy is a great idea, especially since it can double as a cup and bowl. Space is not a concern for me, as I mostly carry a Golite Gust, and there's never a shortage of stuff that I could fill the Caddy with in addition to the cone. For me, the stability, increased wind resistance and fuel economy offered by the Caldera more than make up for the slightly extra effort of packing it safely.

Well, I am a bit of an heretic here, because I am not into ultra lightweight but Light and Comfy, my own version of backpacking.
Ben's system is light,small and practical and I can do that too ( or at least I could do if I knew where my Ion stove and stand are), but the Caldera Cone is stable, reliable and fiddle free even in the wind. Having the TiTri version also means that if I am stuck I can also use wood to cook with. My kit includes some cotton balls with petroleum jelly, so I am ready for that too.
BTW, my two person version, using a White Box stove and 900ml pot, fits all inside the pot. I might get a Caldera 2 person kit just to annoy Ben.
Franco

"I might get a Caldera 2 person kit just to annoy Ben."

I've already got one ;)

Ben, your set-up is not a one-person kit, it's a kit for a puppy or two year old. I can't really get by with anything less then 900mls for solo use (though I prefer 1300mls), and 2 litres for two-person…and here I was thinking you Americans are all big eaters!

I agree with Franco. There is a big difference between what I could survive with (which is probably no stove in most situations) versus what I find a light but comfortable cooking set-up, and Caldera cone=comfy for me and my beloved.

Thanks Allison. It has taken me years to go down to a 550ml solo pot…..

My main meal does fit inside it (just) but I do have some snacks whilst cooking and some (figs,chocolate,my own energy bar) for after, with a cup of hot chocolate when it's cold. And I am 70kg…
Ben is younger,trimmer and better looking, so he does not eat much.

Again, one size does not fit all. We should have a constant warning "try it at home first"
Franco

Michael, you can store the cone flat inside your packs hydration sleeve, rolled in a plastic tube, etc. I also have the 1400 size; and the 900. I like the capability to heat enough water for two meals and two drinks at the same time. Congrats on getting a classic LW hiking item.

I have munted a caldera cone by rolling it up in my sleeping pad,. If you roll it too tight, you can crush the dovetail joint…this could also happen in your hydration sleeve if you pack your pack too tightly.

Munted? Kiwispeak? :)

Munt:

To break, bend, sparce, splinter, shatter, crash, crush, smash, snap, squash, lascerate, puncture, peirce, crack, destroy, burst, demolish, trash, disintegrate, fracture, fragment, hit, pound, pulverize, slam, or squish…down-under speak

Munted can also mean to get totally leglessly intoxicated, which is also do-able with an alky stove if you drink the fuel instead of burning it (do not try this with methanol, denatured ethanol or isopropanol please).