Apr 24, 2008 at 5:40 am #1228570
Ron BellBPL Member
What do you think of ARK for a pack name? Other suggestions? -It's may be time to rename and update the Zip.
Any design tweak suggestions for the Zip?
ThanksApr 24, 2008 at 5:56 am #1429921
since you already offer the "Revelation" and the "Prophet", what about "Priest"? ;-)
ValentinApr 24, 2008 at 6:05 am #1429923
Doug JohnsonBPL Member
@djohnsonLocale: Washington State
I remember seeing the name Zip and thinking it was a panel loader with a zipper. The change might be good, at least for me!
I agree- stick to the theme. How about the Zen, or the Messiah? Enlightenment? Ha!Apr 24, 2008 at 6:22 am #1429925
te – waBPL Member
the "Zap"Apr 24, 2008 at 6:28 am #1429929
@maynard76Locale: New England
I cant think of any tweaks for the Zip, I mean its pretty well thought out for what it is. I would think you would need to basically make a whole new pack if you need something different. I still would like to see what you could come up with if you made a serious bushwhack pack but used your experience and creativity to get it lighter than anything else out there.Apr 24, 2008 at 6:33 am #1429931
I would go for "Dreamliner" … heavenly cruising on longer trips. "Ark" seems a bit too short and agressive to me.
S.Apr 24, 2008 at 6:53 am #1429935
Jonathan RyanBPL Member
@jkrew81Locale: White Mtns
Maybe call it the "Newton" b/c users will be pushing the laws of gravity with it.
As for changes, the only thing I find I would want differnt on my SuperZip would be more points to hold compressions strap's under the side pockets like you have on the front. Not sure how much weight if any it would save but making the entire pack compressible with one non-stretch bungee and the biners at the bottom would be much easier and probably lighter than using bungee's and the middle compression strap the way it is now.Apr 24, 2008 at 8:32 am #1429955
@quoddyLocale: New York/Vermont Border
No new name comes to mind, even after quite a bit of thought. Having just received the Zip… maybe I ordered too soon ;) … I would only sugggest not going any heavier since the Super Zip is out there already. As you know, a main consideration when I chose the Zip over the Super Prophet was because of the mesh side bottle pockets, and I especially liked the latest configuration.Apr 24, 2008 at 10:39 am #1429976
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Ben 2 WorldBPL Member
@ben2worldLocale: So Cal
I'm with Valentin on this one. You've got Revelation and Prophet, so you may as well continue with the theme. I'm sure you can find loads of suitable names in the OT — or even in Lord of the Rings!Apr 24, 2008 at 11:35 am #1429999
I would go with the Exodus.Apr 24, 2008 at 11:45 am #1430006
i second exodusApr 24, 2008 at 11:53 am #1430009
@mikefaedundeeLocale: Under a bush in Scotland
As a happy Zip owner, i wouldn't change too much. I would like a roll-top closure though. Maybe make it all dyneema as long as it didn't increase the weight greatly.
As for the name, how about The Message?Apr 24, 2008 at 11:59 am #1430010
Brian BarnesBPL Member
How about the MLD "Oracle"
from MW online:
1 a: a person (as a priestess of ancient Greece) through whom a deity is believed to speak b: a shrine in which a deity reveals hidden knowledge or the divine purpose through such a person c: an answer or decision given by an oracle2 a: a person giving wise or authoritative decisions or opinions b: an authoritative or wise expression or answerApr 24, 2008 at 12:07 pm #1430011
@slashpastorLocale: Colorado now!!!
I just have to say that any pack named the ARK had better be GY-NORMOUS!!!!!!! and waterproof.
On another note: Ron, I love your stuff! Your Grace solo tarp has served me well!!!
PassionphishApr 24, 2008 at 12:25 pm #1430014
Brian BarnesBPL Member
Matt, Ha Ha… funny stuff.Apr 24, 2008 at 12:53 pm #1430019
Tony WongBPL Member
@valsharLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
Love your products.
I 2nd the vote for staying on theme with the name scheme.
Exodus sounds cool and has my vote.
P.S. If you start your own UL Religion, maybe you can file for tax free status? :)Apr 24, 2008 at 1:31 pm #1430022
Robert CBPL Member
@beenay25Locale: Intermountain West
Exodus is an awesome name, but you might have to do a couple things to the pack to increase it's "cool factor" so it would live up to that name, such as only having the pack available in all black, with red trim, with chromed hardware. Like someone said, a pack called the ARK had better be ginormous and waterproof or it will be a little confusing to people why you named it that. Similarly, I initially thought the Zip was a panel loader, so maybe go easy on the misnomers unless in fact the new pack will be Ark-sized..
A waterproof UL pack would be pretty cool, though. I don't know if there's seam tape for silnylon, but it would be nice to be able to dispense with pack covers and liners..
For improvements to the Zip, you might give the option of built-in hipbelt pockets. I know you have accessory hip belt pockets available, but it seems like there's an extra layer of fabric with a system like that.Apr 24, 2008 at 1:39 pm #1430023
@arichardson6Locale: North East
Welp, it is Passover, so I vote for Exodus too!Apr 24, 2008 at 1:44 pm #1430024
Chris MorganBPL Member
@chrismorganLocale: Southern Oregon
The NebuchadnezzarApr 24, 2008 at 2:21 pm #1430030
@thomdarrahLocale: Southern Oregon
How about "Been Laden" as in having been weighed down with a load. It would be a name that reflects the times (think Ben Lauden)we live in. Of course it could be you put the pack away in your gear closet and never find it again. Smile.Apr 24, 2008 at 3:40 pm #1430038
george carrBPL Member
@hammer-oneLocale: Walking With The Son
How about the Genesis pack, since it sounds like a new beginning.Apr 24, 2008 at 5:03 pm #1430052
Dave HeissBPL Member
@daveheissLocale: Pacific Northwest
Whatever name you decide on (I vote for Exodus), don't go too crazy changing the Zip design. A little more capacity in the main bag would be appreciated – maybe as a bigger collar – and integrated hipbelt pockets like those on ULA packs would be a great addition, but the side pockets are perfect for us water bottle users, and the overall pack configuration is awesome.
Let us all know what you have planned and when it might be available – thanks.Apr 24, 2008 at 5:20 pm #1430056
Ron BellBPL Member
Awesome names and feed back! Many Thanks.
Seems like Exodus is in the lede and I really like that one.- I like Oracle too.
I must have been nuts the day I named it the Zip-thinking of being zippy or zipping down the trail…duhOh
I don't plan any big changes for the Zip, except the name. Mainly a few tweaks to some of hardware and /or lash loop positions and maybe a very minor size change to the rear pocket. It may grow 1oz but no more.
Keep the ideas rolling…Apr 24, 2008 at 5:44 pm #1430060
@thangfishLocale: S. Central NC, USA
Exodus: Movement of Jah people!
Sounds good to me.
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