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Suluk46 “Atani” Ti Stakes

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JCH BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2015 at 6:11 am

Very interesting indeed…if a tad pricey.

Mike M BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2015 at 7:30 am

go ahead and a pack of four to your cart- $22 and then looking at shipping and handling $10!!!!!!!!! 46% of the cost lets see four small stakes at ~ 1.0 oz (with packaging), shipping USPS First Class should be about $2 tops- WTF? major fail!

Peter Boysen BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2015 at 7:51 am

They are shipping from Canada, though $10 minimum for shipping even within Canada does seem steep for small items. Probably he set up his shipping costs primarily for the more expensive stuff he makes.

Tim Marshall BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2015 at 7:58 am

Steve is an awesome guy. One of my best "internet only" friends. I'm sure if you mail him he will help you understand the cost or maybe find a cheaper way. You can always grab a sick woodstove, snow stakes, or crazy light windscreen to reduce the impact of shipping;) -Tim

Jeffrey Wong BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2015 at 12:32 pm

Titanium is tempting, but I'd look to ruta locura for cost considerations. I hope some well heeled BPL member will buy & review these so we can know if new, innovative designs bear out their promise in the field. I bring tent stakes, but most often, I look for big rocks, branches or trunks of bushes/trees to tie tarp lines.

Ryan Smith BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2015 at 6:34 pm

"The most expensive tent stakes in the world?" MSR Carbon Cores are often more expensive. Think I originally paid $8 a piece a while back. :( Ryan

PostedOct 22, 2015 at 6:57 pm

I'll bet if you tried to drive those things into hard rocky ground they'd break in about 10 seconds. The flatness means not enough metal at the T. That's where the stake would snap. Overpriced too.

Steven Evans BPL Member
PostedOct 24, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Steve here, founder of Suluk 46 :) I hope that clarifies the outstanding questions, and I am here to follow up on additional inquiries as required. In conclusion, let me throw this out there for some gear talk fun (and I know Mr. Caffin is gonna love thinking this one through!)…. The industry has “tricked” us into believing what a tent stake is supposed to look like…the classic design; a straight uniform section along it’s length, when used in typical fashion, does not lend itself to withstanding the forces exerted on a tent stake in an efficient manner…to be clear, it is not that they don’t work, they work very well, they just aren’t efficient. It has more to do with the surface area of the tent stake being pulled through the earth (how wide is your tent stake where the maximum force is applied), where your guyline attaches to (see my titanium snow stakes as a good example), the length of the tent stake which will determine the pivot point or fulcrum (longer means your resulting force is reduced because of the additional leverage), and of course the condition of the physically ground itself.

Mike M BPL Member
PostedOct 24, 2015 at 7:46 pm

Steve- thanks for posting. Unfortunately $10 for shipping a 1 oz package is non-starter for me. More than willing to try your new stake design at the price you have posted, just can't in good conscious add a $10 bill to it. Maybe someone in the US would be willing to carry them and then ship them at first class rates here????? Too bad BPL did away with their store. Mike

Stephen M BPL Member
PostedOct 24, 2015 at 10:18 pm

Mike, Or get a group purchase going and split the shipping costs.

PostedOct 24, 2015 at 10:35 pm

Mike, in Canada we pay huge shipping costs, even within Canada. If there is any "fail" here it is Canada Post, not Steve's offering. The shipping cost is actually 25% less given current exchange rates so there is that.

PostedOct 25, 2015 at 6:44 am

Steve, sorry if I sounded hypercritical. You've been very helpful sharing your knowledge here at BPL. You're an intelligent guy. I guess all of the years I spent backpacking in rocky Arizona made me wary of uberlight stakes. For example, I used to use the Vargo Titanium Nails which were heavy at 17 grams each, but I could practically drive those things into solid rock. Then I decided to switch to the UL version, which are half the weight. Well, they all snapped off at the head while trying to drive them into hard ground. The hole at the head end just didn't leave enough meat at the top. I also think the metallurgy was inferior. You make some awesome and innovative gear Steve, and maybe I'm wrong, maybe your stakes can handle the punishment, however, in hard regolith I think I'd rather pay the weight penalty and go with the Lawson Burley Ti-Shepherd stake with 1" cut off (and re-sharpened of course) at 9.5 gms. They are 4mm thick throughout and cost $3.50 . I just wonder if your stakes have enough metal at the T. The price isn't such a big deal if the pegs can hold up. Thanks again for your valuable input here at BPL Steve.

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